Entitled DPS, please stop being entitled

[Sapphic]

Personally I would have let him eat the mobs he pulled. Then probably left.

No-one has the right to demand that someone cater to their sole wants. Then trying to blackmail someone into getting their own way is pathetic. Two wrongs don't make a right, but neither does giving in to someone trying to bully you into doing what they want you to do isn't either.

Personally when I was levelling DPS jobs in DF, if the tank asked for clear whatever, I would respond that it is their choice, I'll go along with it. And as tank I'll ask if they want to get xp or just get through. But as soon as someone starts demanding something, their opinion becomes void. And I'll pull how the rest to, if they don't like it, they can leave. If they start blatently sabotaging the run, they get reported and kicked. If you don't stand up to them and show their actions have reactions they will not learn and continue to do the same.

Rare times I've had to kick someone, I've warned them in chat of their actions that is causing the kick. I don't just kick (unless someone is AFK for an age or DCd for a long time). I want them to know exactly why so they can adjust the next time.

There is a shortage of tanks in DF, we all know that, then demanding and blackmailing them into making them do what you want dissuades new tanks from continuing thus escalating the shortage problem.

Luckily enough it's been very rare, kinda countable on one hand from 100s of runs in DF that i've had to deal with entitled brats.

OP, you had a lot more tolerance than I would have had.

[MicahZerrshia]

There is a shortage of tanks in DF, we all know that, then demanding and blackmailing them into making them do what you want dissuades new tanks from continuing thus escalating the shortage problem.

Honestly I usually have this problem with tank. They think since they are the tank they control the run. If they want a full clear they are going to get one and if they don't they wont do it. Because they feel as the tank they control the pace and clear rate of the dungeon, the opinions of the other 3 ppl be damned. And there is little you can do about it since if you kick the tank you may never get a new one, so in the end the tank gets what the tank wants which just feeds the tank entitlement issues. I'm actually surprised we don't see more tanks just due to how easy they have it with queues and issues like this. I seldom, if ever see it from dps and only on occasion from a healer.

At the same time, dps shouldn't pull just because he wants more, I will let the pt get eatin, reset and boot that dps if they are like that. It should be a consensus.

[Sapphic]

Honestly I usually have this problem with tank.

Like the OP, if the party wants a full clear and speak like you would to another human being, I'll happily oblige, hell I even ask if they want if majority aren't at level cap. But as soon as one starts talking to me like dirt and starts getting all demanding and entitled. They will get a reaction and not one they will like.

I run dungeons as tank, because I enjoy it, because I'll happily help players get clears. I don't join to be someones doormat or b*tch they can abuse, blackmail or be outright rude to. They will either be removed or find themselves hoping another tank joins.

Simple thing, if the players in the party are decent human beings I'm happy to spend extra time in the dungeon with them. As people like that make the dungeons enjoyable for me. The other type, not worth the effort.

[Adire]

Like the OP, if the party wants a full clear and speak like you would to another human being, I'll happily oblige, hell I even ask if they want if majority aren't at level cap. But as soon as one starts talking to me like dirt and starts getting all demanding and entitled. They will get a reaction and not one they will like.

I run dungeons as tank, because I enjoy it, because I'll happily help players get clears. I don't join to be someones doormat or b*tch they can abuse, blackmail or be outright rude to. They will either be removed or find themselves hoping another tank joins.

Simple thing, if the players in the party are decent human beings I'm happy to spend extra time in the dungeon with them. As people like that make the dungeons enjoyable for me. The other type, not worth the effort.

This 100x.

[Zaraaraz]

I don't join to be someones doormat or b*tch they can abuse, blackmail or be outright rude to.

This pretty much hits the nail. But it's not limited to dps Some people think their time/needs are more important than that of others. I really don't get that. If you want to play a certain way, you don't queue up for a random group!

What usually happens is the following:
*things don't go as someone had in mind*
"kick me" in party chat follows
If the group doesn't respond, the "kick me" gets copied and spammed some 10 times.
Someone: "You can hit the 'Leave' button"
The person throws a temper tantrum like a 4 year old and starts getting abusive, while spamming "kick me" some more, throwing in a 'Vote Abandon' here and there.
Unfortunately, this horrible behavior often gets rewarded by making that Vote Abandon happen. I've only seen it not work a couple of times. And I hate to admit it, but I had a good chuckle whenever that happened.