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    Alberel's Avatar
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Compare it to the other main scenario fights rather than coil. And even then, I feel like SoF is presented poorly especially for a fight that gets immediately put on DF. That's the problem I have, along side the fact how the previous main scenario fights (HM primals, especially levi) were done before SoF. It's a complete shift in what you're typically used to/doing. The matter of fact is that its still required for the expansion and having a fairly low clear rate is bad design and marketing.

    It's like getting someone to play a platformer (straight forward, perhaps facerolly like levi HM) to something like Dark Souls. (different approach and requiring different concepts from a platformer game)
    Comparing it to Dark Souls is a little much... just because you personally find it irrationally more difficult than it actually is does not warrant a comparison to suggest everyone does. This line of argument is basically saying that we can never have any variety in content because people can't adapt. Is that what you want? Nothing but fights where everyone just burns the boss whilst ignoring AOEs that do too little damage to actually bother dodging them?

    It's incredibly sad that the creative direction of future storyline content is going to be completely inhibited because a few players don't want to have to think about anything...
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    Taisai Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    It's incredibly sad that the creative direction of future storyline content is going to be completely inhibited because a few players don't want to have to think about anything...
    Crap like this also makes the Elitist/Casual dichotomy far more apparent and creates more vitriol in the community as a result.

    Content should have progressively gotten more challenging and required more attention from players. Instead the opposite has happened, everything has progressively gotten so much easier. It is absolutely no surprise that there are so many terrible players out there. Had content been progressively more challenging, your average player would generally be better at the game and things like T5 wouldn't be such a road block for some. Instead your average player still can't even deal with the simplest of mechanics, and SE now has to cater to them for fear of losing subscribers... Alienating those of us who are starting to fall asleep at the simplicity of so much of this games content...

    I'm really not too sure why anyone thinks it's OK for SE to cater to these individuals constantly. It's a terrible plan which cheapens the entire game. I know plenty of people who quit this game due to the relative ease of its content, I'm not even going to try convincing them to come back... What would I say, "Remember how we had a hard time with Garuda (Hard)? She's a total joke now, you should totally start playing again!"? If you actually lay out what happens to content in this game and try to use that as a sales pitch, I don't think anyone would buy it. Had players been given ample room to develop and get better at the game, rather than constantly having those chances removed, we'd have a much better game and could expect much better content. That's a sales pitch which would actually work. Shame the opposite is true.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 05-10-2015 at 08:56 AM.

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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Crap like this also makes the Elitist/Casual dichotomy far more apparent and creates more vitriol in the community as a result.

    Content should have progressively gotten more challenging and required more attention from players.
    But still some players are able to clear coil. Even with the sudden ramp in difficulty, but imagine how the forums would go if they start adding tiered difficulty? Well, we will find out soon in 3.0 with Alexander (normal). Too many players don't want to be challenged, they want to be able to face roll derp through everything.
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