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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    That doesn't mean your typical static doesn't need the Dreadwyrm gear in order to progress. This goes right back to what I said before - just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you don't NEED the other thing.

    So again; yes, the raiders need their i130 gear. To progress.
    And this whole side-argument doesn't change that Dreadwyrm gear is Dreadwyrm gear and having Ironworks gear i130 doesn't make Dreadwyrm any less meaningful. It gives those players that need that ilvl the chance to progress.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    You are flip-flopping on your arguement so much, it's almost impossible to constantly argue against you. You go from arguing "You dont' need this gear" to now "It's not any less meaningful!" I at least appreciate that y ou can agree that people need the ilvl 130 to progress in end-game content.

    You know what? Meaningful is subjective. Who are YOU to say what gear "Means" to someone? who am -I- to say what gear "means" to someone? that is something that we can BOTH only speak anectdotaly and personally. We can not try to claim that it is "Any less meaningful" in any capacity for the world.

    I know people who are excited at the start of 2.3/2.5 to be able to upgrade to the next tier, who are estatic to get stronger gear.
    I know people who dread 2.3/2.5, because they feel it cheapens their weapons. I knew a bard who was so excited to get his i130 Augmented Ironworks bow, and yet as we sat around the pipes in Northern Thanalan, he couldnt' help but say with a disheartened voice, "Kind of sucks that everyone will be able to run around with this in 2.5..."

    Meaning is subjective. I'll agree that it helps people progress, but again - tome gear doesn't need to go to i130 outside of coils. It's given to help people catch up, which is good on SE's part.
    Flip-floping? The argument is constantly changing in this thread, but nothing I've said has been flip-floping. I have already said from several pages back that FCoB gear isn't needed to down FCoB. I have already said from several pages back that Dreadwyrm gear is Dreadwyrm gear and i130 Ironworks gear doesn't ruin any sense of prestige from wearing it. I mentioned that players like to feel like their character is progressively getting stronger, that combined with everything else is why there is no reason to restrict i130 to Coils drops at the end of the raids lifespan.
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    Last edited by SDaemon; 05-04-2015 at 08:37 AM.