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  1. #91
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    Sileas Goode
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donarudo View Post
    I don't know why...I am just pointing out what I think SE's thought process is on the matter.
    Everybody with a brain knows that ilvl isn't forever. Even if you have the best gear from raiding it's gonna get obsolete and outclassed by even a dungeon gear (see bcob gear and the current i100 dungeon drops). Even if raiders get this so called time advantage for raiding as opposed to people who just do easy dungeons to collect currencies, does it really make sense to already marginalize that advantage while the raid the gear comes from is still at its prime? People can already be at the same ilvl as the raider within just 1 3month patch?
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  2. #92
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    Yutani Donarudo
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    Brains
    I should clarify. I don't know why it isn't done the way you stated in the previous quote. I chuckled at the brain statement by the way. Also of course its going to be obsolete eventually. Also to be clear I am not disagreeing with your logic here. Last It doesn't really matter in the end what I think to be frank. What matters is this conversation is important enough to at least entertain the conversations to understand why people are at odds with the current system.
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  3. #93
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    Sariena Adeline
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    Zalera
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    I still don't understand the point of gearing up if you don't have any interest in using the gear. Glamour? Only reason I can conjure. With that said, yes, Alexanders gear should greatly outweigh the other gear with upgrading pieces being 20ilvl jump :P
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  4. #94
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    Adam Fylrmyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline View Post
    I still don't understand the point of gearing up if you don't have any interest in using the gear.
    Gotta show off, amirite?
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  5. #95
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    Thendra Cyril-gun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donarudo View Post
    While I understand what you are saying there is something you should realize. Gaming companies realized a very long time ago that making raids and gear exclusive to only those who had the time or excelled at raiding was not a very good business model. Locking customers out of the very content they want them to see and experience is just bad business in terms of being a successful game these days. Much of the target market that play MMO's have been playing them since early 99.
    WOW would like to have a word with you.

    Please check http://www.wowprogress.com/
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  6. #96
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    Yutani Donarudo
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    WOW would like to have a word with you.

    Please check http://www.wowprogress.com/
    I'm sorry why the reference to WoW when we are discussing Final Fantasy 14?
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  7. #97
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    Rera Kando
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donarudo View Post
    I'm sorry why the reference to WoW when we are discussing Final Fantasy 14?
    Because its progression model is a very close copy of WoW.
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  8. #98
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    Yutani Donarudo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen_Cerfrumos View Post
    Because its progression model is a very close copy of WoW.
    Ahhh...I see. Yeah I totally missed that point. Thanks for the clarification.
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  9. #99
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    Koala Shibito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    Everybody with a brain knows that ilvl isn't forever. Even if you have the best gear from raiding it's gonna get obsolete and outclassed by even a dungeon gear (see bcob gear and the current i100 dungeon drops). Even if raiders get this so called time advantage for raiding as opposed to people who just do easy dungeons to collect currencies, does it really make sense to already marginalize that advantage while the raid the gear comes from is still at its prime? People can already be at the same ilvl as the raider within just 1 3month patch?
    Except SCoB and FCoB were already pass their prime when Tome gear was freely available for upgrades.
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  10. #100
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    Waliel Hla
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarmaCha View Post
    False. If you really think i110 non melded gear is better than anything i130, you need to research stat weights.
    As it happens to be that is exactly the case for caster gloves for BLM.

    Evenstar Gloves i110: 34,908 effective INT
    Augmented Ironworks Gloves i130: 34,444 effective INT

    The gloves are absolutely horrendous DPS wise.

    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    You talked about the story only needing i90. Fabulous, do Shiva EX with i90...wait to even do the DF of it you need i95. Though even with i95 you are going to be hard pressed to down her unless you are in a premade.
    Shiva EX is not story. HM is 80, Steps and Chrysalis is 90.
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    Yoshi-P is doing his best and is patching Endwalker. Please wait warmly until it is ready.

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