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  1. #81
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    I guess some might think I'm back tracking but yes I know it's end of arr and doesn't matter til heavensward but also something else not really talked about is the relic should remain the second best weapon in the game and I enjoyed the grind and hope they keep it similiar to 2.0. Its the only true gil sink in this game right now.
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    Last edited by Galdous; 05-03-2015 at 11:05 PM.

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    Some people just won't feel awesome enough without a crowd of peasants to look down on. However, people don't tend play MMORPGs in order to feel like second class citizens just because they don't like to raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galdous View Post
    Things about things
    While I understand what you are saying there is something you should realize. Gaming companies realized a very long time ago that making raids and gear exclusive to only those who had the time or excelled at raiding was not a very good business model. Locking customers out of the very content they want them to see and experience is just bad business in terms of being a successful game these days. Much of the target market that play MMO's have been playing them since early 99. What that means is a lot of people started playing MMO's in their early teens young adult life.

    This same group are now adults with full time jobs businesses to run, and children to raise. If you think SE doesn't take these types of things into account when presenting content to their customers you are certainly mistaken then. SE realizes they have to stagger gear progression to give it the appearance of taking time and to not alienate several different core customers ie: hardcore, casual/hardcore, and casuals. You see its a balance and I for one think SE has done a fine job.
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    So you feel that you should be given gear as strong as the raid gear without having to play the game for it? As I said I was 15 I level below every raider on my realm until I finished getting the poetic gear which only takes 30 minutes a day doing dungeons so easy there was never a need to step into a raid.

    Raids are casual friendly now so this silly argument claiming you need to have no life is sorta null and void now. 7-8 hours a week is still in the realm of casual and that is even for a static group. If my friend with 3 kids and a wife+40-50 hour job can make his casual static requirements then I think people are just trying to make excuses at this point. FF 14 raiding is already so casual friendly.
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    Last edited by Galdous; 05-03-2015 at 11:21 PM.

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    Yes, it definitely should drop the highest ilvl gear in the game.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elazu View Post
    Yes, it definitely should drop the highest ilvl gear in the game.
    And it likely will until 3.1, then there will be other means available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donarudo View Post
    This same group are now adults with full time jobs businesses to run, and children to raise. If you think SE doesn't take these types of things into account when presenting content to their customers you are certainly mistaken then. SE realizes they have to stagger gear progression to give it the appearance of taking time and to not alienate several different core customers ie: hardcore, casual/hardcore, and casuals. You see its a balance and I for one think SE has done a fine job.
    So why can't they stagger it a bit more so that if a non raider wants to have the same ilvl as the raid gears, they can wait until the content those raid gear comes from gets replaced with a new one? That's only when the former raid becomes relevant to them anyway (echo and all).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galdous View Post
    Are you responding to me?.
    If so then you completely missed my point. I never insinuated I should be given anything (strong gear). Also I never mentioned anything about not having a life to complete content. Everything you stated is pure conjecture on your part. I merely pointed out why SE more then likely staggers it the way they do. I will politely ask you to please refrain from twisting what I said to fit the mold or cater to your rebuttal. Last re-read what I wrote and point out to me in my statement any consistency in your statement. For the record I never once claimed anything.

    I didn't come here to ask for stuff to be easier I came here to give a formal rebuttal against you and your ideology in this game. Nothing more and nothing less. I will reiterate I did not say anything that you stated I have. Last you will notice when I first quoted you I never once mentioned your post directly, I merely placed my rebuttal and that is it. You on the other hand decided to interpret what I said as entirely something different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    So why can't they stagger it a bit more so that if a non raider wants to have the same ilvl as the raid gears, they can wait until the content those raid gear comes from gets replaced with a new one? That's only when the former raid becomes relevant to them anyway (echo and all).
    I don't know why...I am just pointing out what I think SE's thought process is on the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galdous View Post
    I guess some might think I'm back tracking but yes I know it's end of arr and doesn't matter til heavensward but also something else not really talked about is the relic should remain the second best weapon in the game and I enjoyed the grind and hope they keep it similiar to 2.0. Its the only true gil sink in this game right now.
    I'm sorry... what? No, really, what? Relic is far from being the second anything... after Novus. It is the best weapon you can ever have right now... after Novus. Just because it's not gated behind Coil doesn't reduce it's effectiveness. Is it so hard for you to grasp, the idea that everyone should have access to the best things if they try? You really do need to get that chip off your shoulder...
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