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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    This is nonsense. BLMs and SMNs attempting to heal themselves are generally incompetent (to put it more generously, perhaps they are very new and simply don't know better). The only time it is acceptable for the DPS caster to spend their GCDs on healing is when both of the following are true: 1) the healer is not healing (usually = they're dead) and 2) the DPS heals will at least keep the tank up long enough to give the group a chance of salvaging the situation.
    Do you not see the connection between #1 and Healers DPS'ing? As I said, I'm only ever seeing this when playing SCH, not WHM. I'm not going to stop every party and go "look, I'm playing a scholar, I can throw DPS DoT's while the fairy heals" The DPS can not see the fairy's cast meter, because the fairy doesn't show up in the party list. The only reason anyone knows the fairy is healing them is that cast line that shows up.

    People who play DPS and never healing roles, would obviously fail to make that connection between why the healer doesn't heal at 10% or 30% damage, and why the target shouldn't heal themselves like in other MMORPG's where healers are useless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    Many weeks and many threads of discussion later and you still don't understand how this works? I feel like this is the commercial with the elderly woman not understanding social media -- That's not how any of this works.
    Many weeks and many dead horse beatings later, you still think I'm going "healers should stand still with their staff up their butt and do nothing"...

    Let me spell it out again...

    If people were playing the game like it was designed HEALERS WOULD NOT BE DPS'ING WHEN THERE ARE HEALABLE TARGETS, which is the entire point of this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Alisi View Post
    You know, whenever I'm on my SCH in a lower level dungeon, I find that other players (generally DPS) think that because I'm DPSing, I must not also be healing. I'm not sure if it's because Eos doesn't show what she's doing (as in, all they see is me DPSing.) I finally asked in my last dungeon where a DPS was healing (an arcanist.) Her answer was because I wasn't...
    That ACN in that example was likely jumping the gun because they were seeing healable targets, but not at the threshold of which need healing for Eos. Now go back to my other statement:
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    That said, if a WHM is DPS'ing and not healing, it's VERY obvious. Because the tank will fall over in 10 seconds. SCH's Eos/Selene will never let the tank die,
    If you're in a dungeon, especially a pre-30 dungeon as a SCH, you only have a single heal skill, Psysick, which is the same potency as Eos's Embrace. You can pretty much let the fairy do all the healing until the boss room. But when you do that, the other players will only see you DPS'ing, not healing.

    If they want to take over healing, offer to unsummon the fairy and see how long they last.
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    Last edited by KisaiTenshi; 05-02-2015 at 07:00 PM.