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    kyuven's Avatar
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyteStones View Post
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    Oh my god. You're serious, aren't you?
    You realize they snag your info just for VISITING their sites, right? Some people, due to the lack of education about these practices, don't realize that. And they lose their info, ranging from just their login up to including their bank info.
    There're these thing called "keyloggers" and "trojan horses." It's not about being stupid, it's about being naive.
    And people who are naive do NOT deserve to have their lives ruined by internet trolls.
    And here's the thing: If there are enough complaints about something that it drowns out all other topics, maybe it's something that needs to be addressed.

    It becomes a self-perpetuating problem: RMTs post ads. Players get annoyed, go to their websites to complain, get keylogger, lose account. RMTs strip that account of everything valuable, extrapolate possible info about owner's other accounts, and strip that as well. Then they make more bot accounts and the cycle continues. It's like the zombie internet apocalypse.
    It's not unusual for someone who gets tricked into visiting these websites through one reason or another to end up losing thousands of dollars from a single click.
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    Last edited by kyuven; 05-02-2015 at 06:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    And here's the thing: If there are enough complaints about something that it drowns out all other topics, maybe it's something that needs to be addressed.
    ^ This.
    This is why people rally, have protests (not including violent ones -_-), sit ins, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    And here's the thing: If there are enough complaints about something that it drowns out all other topics, maybe it's something that needs to be addressed.
    Hopefully they'll address it by banning all the people spamming the forums. Seriously the Anti-RMT spam on the forum is just as bad as the RMT spam in-game. You aren't hurting SE by making a new topic about this every 5 mins... you are hurting other players who are trying to have discussions and use this resource. I have almost permanently switched to reddit because this **** isn't constant there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akuryu View Post
    Hopefully they'll address it by banning all the people spamming the forums. Seriously the Anti-RMT spam on the forum is just as bad as the RMT spam in-game. You aren't hurting SE by making a new topic about this every 5 mins... you are hurting other players who are trying to have discussions and use this resource. I have almost permanently switched to reddit because this **** isn't constant there.
    Personally I hope it continues to happen until something is finally done. There are dozens of ideas all over the place, ranging from the simple like right click->blacklist, to lifting the limit on the blacklist, and the more complicated like the option to block tells at a certain level.
    We also need education. To tell people NOT to go to these websites even to "sneak a peek" or "see what's up." I know it sounds like babysitting but given the problem at this point is likely self-perpetuating because of "first MMO syndrome," some education is in order.
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    Rino Bakaro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akuryu View Post
    Hopefully they'll address it by banning all the people spamming the forums. Seriously the Anti-RMT spam on the forum is just as bad as the RMT spam in-game. You aren't hurting SE by making a new topic about this every 5 mins... you are hurting other players who are trying to have discussions and use this resource. I have almost permanently switched to reddit because this **** isn't constant there.
    Well the "i'm going to post all the tells i get" ones just got banned.
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    Zefis Shadowsea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortified View Post
    Well the "i'm going to post all the tells i get" ones just got banned.
    Can't say I didn't see that coming. If only they banned all the RMTs with such speed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akuryu View Post
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    Exaggerate much? When I go into a city I LITERALLY get an RMT /tell every 5 minutes, there's still in the grand scheme of things, not many threads in the forums yet about the #1 fixable issue with FFXIV right now (I'm saying it's fixable since they figured it out in FFXI decently, other MMO's have figured it out, and because most of the other problems the game has right now are design issues rather than "this shit needs to get fixed now" level).

    RMT's are a major issue here. My hope is that at some point the devs notice this "RMT" thing being mentioned on the NA forums a lot, they might click general discussion and then see like 10 threads with "RMT" in the title. They then can go to their translators for the NA community team and say "hey this RMT thing, is it a big deal over in NA/EU?" And then the community reps respond "OMFG YES it's atrocious, happens to us all the time, the players can't shut up about it, where the heck are our 3 members of that RMT task force?" The devs respond "working on the [mostly non-existent] JP server RMT spam."
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    Last edited by Lisotte; 05-02-2015 at 06:40 AM. Reason: LOL 1000 character limit problem

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    Player Fortified's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisotte View Post
    ...
    They already know.
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    Final Heaven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisotte View Post
    Exaggerate much? When I go into a city I LITERALLY get an RMT /tell every 5 minutes
    When I teleport into a main city like limsa, I get 1 friend request and 5 tells in ONE minute if I don't have busy on xD They aren't trying to be discreet anymore either. There's still the usual jibberish names but most have some form of the website in the character name and park right near the main mb's shouting and queing up for duty, for everyone to see.

    I'll keep posting about the rmt problem as long as it exists, op. We all pay for this game every month and that entitles us to voice opinions and concerns about it. If you don't like that, I don't really care.
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    Last edited by Its_Elodie; 05-02-2015 at 08:29 AM.

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    Orspeth Bleakwood
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Its_Elodie View Post
    When I teleport into a main city like limsa, I get 1 friend request and 5 tells in ONE minute if I don't have busy on xD They aren't trying to be discreet anymore either. There's still the usual jibberish names but most have some form of the website in the character name and park right near the main mb's shouting and queing up for duty, for everyone to see.

    I'll keep posting about the rmt problem as long as it exists, op. We all pay for this game every month and that entitles us to voice opinions and concerns about it. If you don't like that, I don't really care.
    Likewise - sick of this crap .
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