AH info lost in the sauce?

[Cairdeas]

Its semantics, I call it an AH because that's what its called in every other MMO. You can hate on the name of it, but that's what's it called. People new to a game are called amateurs but we call them noobs. Its just a word. And part of the info I'm trying to get is if they do indeed implement AH's how would they do so.

The majority of games that have an Auction House have some sort of auction mechanic involved as well. Like WoW. Just because people don't use it doesn't mean its no longer an auction house.

We want to break that habit. If its not an auction and has no auction mechanics, do not call it one. Its a Market.

Eve has a Market.
FFXIV currently has a Market.

Let us be trend setters for proper word usage.

[Anathiel]

Well to be honest I would also like an auction function. You put the starting price and people want it badly enough they're going to pay wayyyy more than you asked for. Good for the seller, you probably wouldn't see it until further down the road with higher population servers and ultra rare sellable gear. But again, this wasn't supposed to be a mw vs ah thread lol, just a "gimme info!" Thread.

[KitCat]

An auction is when you bid for somthing, if they add a feature to buy from the wards interface its still not an auction house, anywhere that uses the term auction house for a buy now feature either doesnt know what an acuction house is or just uses the term because everywhere else does.

If they add a buy now feature to the wards interface its still the wards, have you ever seen an rl auction house that lets you buy now? ebay doesnt count because it has bidding, just has an option to buy now if the seller wants it.

Bidding is what makes an auction house an auction house, if they just have a buy now button its still a market just without the need to run to the retainer.

Edit: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/auction

Your post was late and unnecessary. Cair already stole your thunder. Read the whole thread before posting instead of stopping to drop off your opinion on the way.

[Delsus]

Your post was late and unnecessary. Cair already stole your thunder. Read the whole thread before posting instead of stopping to drop off your opinion on the way.

I just dont want SE to read this and give somthing a wrong name because there jumping on the band waggon, the more people that give this logic against the people who say they want an auction house which has no auction, the less chance there is of SE thinking we just want the name.

[TheVedis]

I just dont want SE to read this and give somthing a wrong name because there jumping on the band waggon, the more people that give this logic against the people who say they want an auction house which has no auction, the less chance there is of SE thinking we just want the name.

havent you learned
people dont know what they want

[Delsus]

havent you learned
people dont know what they want

Lol, if I can do one thing on these forums it will be to put a lil logic into them, but it feels like the few of us that are trying are fighting a loosing battle.

[TheVedis]

Lol, if I can do one thing on these forums it will be to put a lil logic into them, but it feels like the few of us that are trying are fighting a loosing battle.

thats always the case

90% of posters just want to say they want stuff without thinking it through(jump is going to save this game didnt you know?)
9% want things that we already have, but they want it made easier and faster(for instance, they dont want an AH, they want a counter to buy stuff at instead of entering the wards)
the other 1% of us know exactly what we want and the reality of it

[Trocien]

The reason we have the market wards right now is because Tanaka was too lazy to design a mog-house system. He decided that he could knock out two birds with one stone by using the market wards. Problem is, people really like mog houses and AHs.

[Delsus]

thats always the case

90% of posters just want to say they want stuff without thinking it through(jump is going to save this game didnt you know?)
9% want things that we already have, but they want it made easier and faster(for instance, they dont want an AH, they want a counter to buy stuff at instead of entering the wards)
the other 1% of us know exactly what we want and the reality of it

Lets just hope SE listens to the 10% of people that think things through and either just want things speeding up or know what they want rather than all the useless "I wanna sprout wings and fly, sephiroth did it so I wanna" type posts.

A counter so you dont have to enter the wards would be a good thing to implement it, the main problem would be connecting all the retainers to it, and the constant changes to bazaars, but it is workable possibly by tweaking the search feature slightly or borrowing code from it for a differant menu for it.

[RabidSquirrel]

thats always the case

90% of posters just want to say they want stuff without thinking it through(jump is going to save this game didnt you know?)
9% want things that we already have, but they want it made easier and faster(for instance, they dont want an AH, they want a counter to buy stuff at instead of entering the wards)
the other 1% of us know exactly what we want and the reality of it

To which you'll still need to place a retainer in a ward. I'm for getting rid of all that is pointless. Simpler, convenient, and more elegant market systems have been used in games for many years. Even if you can buy from the search menu, it's still a step down in convenience. Why must you place a retainer somewhere? It's pointless. If what you supposedly want still includes retainer placement, then this system is still going to have a lot of issues if the game becomes popular. Everyone gets two retainers and any additional retainers purchased for an extra fee per month (providing that's still going to happen). Can you not see that this will become a significant problem later on? I would like to hope this game will have a significant amount of players in the future.

I vote for a WoW style AH. It's simple, convenient, and I've never hit a cap on how many things you can sell at once. I could care less what it's called.

And if you want to get technical...if you set up a counter outside to buy things, and no transactions are made inside of the ward rooms, it's not a "Market Wards", is it?