Sooo are SMN and SCH being separated?

[Ecks007]

They could have just made SMN the job continuation for ACN, and completely detach the SCH from ACN, making it the same thing as the 3.0 new jobs, but with the ACN and whatever requirement it has. Nothing else needs to be changed, not even the existing shared weapons. (Obviously 3.0 new items should be separated.)

I dunno. I feel that if anything Sch should be tied to Acn base given that Scholars are well.. Scholarly and that the Arcanists in XIV start out basically as number crunchers and strategists. If anything it becomes odd that Summoner suddenly comes from a job that devises stratagems composed by calculations, where as I can see how that would relate to Scholarly work.

So if anything Summoner should be it's own Job while Scholar remains tied to the Acn class, lore-wise anyway.

[Rufalus]

They are adding many new abilities and promising that SMN will play quite differently to the way it does now. Without divorcing it from arcanist I trust that they are still going to do something awesome with it. That, and its new AF2 clothing looks beautiful. Good times.

[Seraphyel]

SE will add enough job abilities after 50 to separate the Summoner and Scholar from each other.

That's the question. We don't know that. We don't know anything how classes change or how they will evolve and that's totally ridiculous when it comes to mind that Heavensward will be here in less than 2 months.

Are they giving us new skills every 2 levels? 52 - 54 - 56 - 58 - 60? Or do we get less than 5 new skills? We know nothing right now although we're not supposed to be Jon Snow.

[Mature]

Didn't they say that smn and schs will be totally detached as in no more sharing attribute points?

[Evangela]

I know why SE don't want to make new jobs for existing classes. because most of the existing players will get the new jobs at level 50 for free due to already having the old ones at 50. no time sinking = no subscriptions.

[Greven]

That's the question. We don't know that. We don't know anything how classes change or how they will evolve and that's totally ridiculous when it comes to mind that Heavensward will be here in less than 2 months.

Are they giving us new skills every 2 levels? 52 - 54 - 56 - 58 - 60? Or do we get less than 5 new skills? We know nothing right now although we're not supposed to be Jon Snow.

from the same translation I already posted you can read that there will be more than 1 skill every 5 levels. Other than that yeah.. we know nothing Jon Snow.

Didn't they say that smn and schs will be totally detached as in no more sharing attribute points?

Didn't read it anywere. It's just everybody, me included, are hoping and expecting that.

I know why SE don't want to make new jobs for existing classes. because most of the existing players will get the new jobs at level 50 for free due to already having the old ones at 50. no time sinking = no subscriptions.

We'll get the 3 new jobs at level 30

[Rhaja]

I would be extremely happy if SMN was taken off of ACN, and Emerald Carbuncle was turned into a healing pet instead. It would help the first dungeons as well since people would be able to que as a healer and still get away with mostly DPSing.

[Averax]

While Yuna is one of my favorites to use in Duodecim next to Prishe and Jecht, I rather like the idea of SMN being a pet job than the way Yuna plays in Dissidia. I wish the summons were bigger (which they may be in 3.0), but I kinda like how they put summoning into the lore of the game. The traditional summons are Primals in this game, lore-wise it makes sense why a single person can't summon Ifrit, Garuda, Titan, Shiva, Ramuh, etc. at will.

On the subject of melee mages though... RED MAGE PLEASE!

Well, they could play around with Yuna's style a bit by making SMN a more active pet control class, rather than passive. Im not saying they should give SMNs more buttons to manage, i'm saying they should throw some buttons away, and replace them with cool, flashy pet attacks, coupled with some gestures by the caster. The abilities you'd be able to use would depend on the pet you have out. (They'd need to give pets the ability to teleport to wherever you want their action to take place, just to eliminate pet derp)

[Allistar]

I wouldn't hold your breath anticipating this fix. SE's general philosophy seems to be to avoid repeating mistakes in the future, rather than to correct mistakes made in the past.

I'm mostly dissappointed that they, or anyone, ever considered this to be a mistake in the first place. There was so much potential with the job soul stone system that simply never got tapped...

Agreed, I think the job stones could have worked the way they have the weapons work. Equip the job stone of whatever job you want to change to...hate the idea that I have to have a weapon or tool in my hand constantly. That being said I prefer XI version of war and smn to these versions in XIV.

[Seraphyel]

Hopefully SE gives us some news about this topic in the next weeks.