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    Idk know if most people realize how low potency monks attacks are if you dont get hit into positionals. I think some people who commenting never play monk and for you mages what do you except about interuptable when you get hit you can stay in the background safe n keeping up with dps and then when we attack you. You put us to sleep then cast another strong spell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leozhontai View Post
    Idk know if most people realize how low potency monks attacks are if you dont get hit into positionals. I think some people who commenting never play monk and for you mages what do you except about interuptable when you get hit you can stay in the background safe n keeping up with dps and then when we attack you. You put us to sleep then cast another strong spell
    Well my comment was a flippant one,but i'll respond to this anyway...

    I play pvp in the real world,i don't have carefully orchestrated pre-mades to dominate with where everyone has their role,i like many others go in solo and let me tell you,as a solo mage playing on teams of solo minded players,monks(and just about any other melee class)routinely come into my team and actively seek out casters.I've been hit by 13 melee lbs in the past 10 games,maybe 11,i get constantly stunned,slept and bamboozled all the while futilely swinging my littlewand trying to get a single attack off that isn't a scathe while everyone else is off doing their own thing or picking their nose,who knows.If the melees aren't up in my grill(or i don't have a skill up making me un-interruptible which most of the time doesn't matter because i usually still don't get a good burst off before the melees knock me on my ass) there's a bard harassing me making me all but useless,and again my team couldn't give a monkeys or are suffering tunnel vision.My sleeps are constantly on cd because i have to worry about more than just me in there so i can't rely on that all the time.

    Granted,there are games where i'm not constantly harassed and just fighting to stay alive and my team mates are good and covering each other,but that's rare.

    Imo in normal pvp melees have it pretty good when most of the time you're facing randoms/pugs,whatever you want to call them.Nearly every match i'm in i see the melees in among each others numbers,and they usually get a kill before going down and that includes monks,so i don't have much sympathy for them.

    Two things to bear in mind,i have not played melee yet in pvp or much at all in pve,so i don't consider myself knowledgeable on their skills,i just know what i see with my two eyes day in day out.

    I also only really do frontlines 70% of the time it'd be 24man,so my views may also be coloured by the fact that in there it easily becomes a cluster frak.

    Now in closing,i don't truly believe what i said about us being un-interruptable,but i WOULD like it to be chance based and not certain.
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    Some of these mechanics would be good if they allow the mateira like sleep and interruptable to work on pvp so if they would like to have a chance percantage to interupt healers n Mages cant just spam sleep for 30 seconds everytime we get in close
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honourlessichi View Post
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    While I agree with your statement, this has nothing to do with the fact that monk is absurdly difficult to play in pvp. When it comes to melee, choosing monk puts you at a disadvantage. Most of DRG and NIN's attacks have no positional requirement, which is a HUGE advantage over monk. Do you know how much dps monk loses without their positionals? A lot, roughly around 30-40% potency loss before buffs.

    I seriously tried to play monk in pvp, and it just doesn't work realistically. Getting stacks up is not a problem since a lot of pvp skills have instant stacks or perfect balance effects, its just the positionals. Kudos to monks who dominated though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kassiekane View Post
    While I agree with your statement, this has nothing to do with the fact that monk is absurdly difficult to play in pvp.
    I know that my post was going off the topic,just i read these forums a lot and the mage dps statement he made seems to be a sentiment shared by many on here,guess i just needed to say something on it.
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