No against this no more penalties
No against this no more penalties
You withdraw 3 times you get a penalty every time you withdraw after that that's enough. Dps ques suck I get penalty all the time now no more penalties
Let's look at this way.
If you leave without warning, it's bad for your team, considering you didn't warn them.
If you leave because you get kicked, it's probably because most of the members agree to kick you because of a reason.
I got a DRG once in Cutter's. DCed in the middle of last boss, and healer died and wiped. MNK decides to just kick him, I clicked "No." but the DRG was gone.
5 minutes later, waiting for a new DPS, the SAME DRG came back. He was spiteful but yeah, we managed to complete. Kicking someone means most of the team agree, (2/3) and we *might* finish the dungeon sooner. What if the DRG never connected back? Then we'll be waiting for a long time.............
Disagreement on how to play is the worst excuse to vote kick someone (unless the bad player is being a total troll). I rather have a vote abandon and re-queue with a new DF group.
TBH, Duty Finder is the problem...it randomly group the wrong ppl together. For example, grouping (BAD) speed run players doing relic weapons in pre-50 dungeons is often a recipe for disaster. I like to see DF with more options when you are using it—similar to how Party Finder works—so you are attract players with same goals and play style. It SHOULD ONLY GROUP PLAYERS WITH SIMILAR PREFERENCES.
Lol this whole thread is just dumb if someone doesn't want to be there kick them other wise deal with not doing it if the players I join in on are horrible and where wiping and I want to leave and get a better que I'ma ask to get kicked if u decide not to than deal with the afk your choice idk y people have to make a big deal out of nothing oh no some one made me mad on a video game let's cry about it on a forums and tell momma square or just leave and reque orrr just wait to find someone new they put the kick function for a reason I personally love it alot of bad groups out there
Ps: let the grammer insults come the funny thing about it idc! Have a great day guys
Why wouldn't they want to keep the new person and get the experience bonus? I got like 122k experience yesterday from having a newbie in copper bell roulette.

This is what I know so far:
- From this thread I've learned that some ask to be kicked in order to avoid the penalty
- I have also seen in Party Finder people looking to form a group to farm the 1st room in Dzemael promising 50k xp for 5 minutes, which implies no penalty. I assume they mean leaving and then re-Q_ing immediately since you need 15 minutes to vote Abandon
- I once chose to leave and was able to re-Q immediately (on entering dungeon Healer decided to leave, Tank soon followed, that left 2 of us DPS and not wanting to just wait there - I left)
so how exactly does the penalty work? where/when is the point of no return?


This is a dumb request because kicking only requires half party vote. You can que df with two in a 4man and kick the randoms without a valid reason and those 2 would get a 30min penalty each. Seems like a thing that would get abused by trolls.
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