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    The punishment for abandoning was to tackle the people fishing instances for soldiery bonus, griefing/trolling or hunting for friends but leaving everyone else in the lurch as they come and go plus those who fished for certain stages of an instance aka boss fishing. The 30 minute penalty for that is fine in my opinion.

    There should not be a vote kick 30 minute penalty however on the person vote kicked because vote kicking has become very abused in terms of kicking so some people have greater chance at drops, vote kicking because a group wanted to replace someone with their friend, vote kicking for laughs and giggles by groups or out of spite and as such the vote kicked person should not be punished on top of what they already are in terms of all the time they end up wasting when queued to get in and effort they may have put in to clearing the content up to that stage before was vote kicked.

    The reality is there are more people abusing the vote kick system than there are players afking entire instances only to come back when roll for loot and we already have in place a way to kick such players from the group which is unfortunately being abused in other ways by some vote kickers. There should be a severe limit on the amount of times you can vote kick during say 24 hours and combine this with the vote kicked player not being able to rejoin that specific group during that specific run but other than that more effort needs to be put towards resolving the vote kick abuse going on than tackling long term afk non-contributing players.
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    Last edited by Snugglebutt; 04-20-2015 at 04:30 AM.

  2. #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    There should not be a vote kick 30 minute penalty however on the person vote kicked because vote kicking has become very abused in terms of kicking so some people have greater chance at drops, vote kicking because a group wanted to replace someone with their friend, vote kicking for laughs and giggles by groups or out of spite and as such the vote kicked person should not be punished on top of what they already are in terms of all the time they end up wasting when queued to get in and effort they may have put in to clearing the content up to that stage before was vote kicked.

    The reality is there are more people abusing the vote kick system than there are players afking entire instances only to come back when roll for loot and we already have in place a way to kick such players from the group which is unfortunately being abused in other ways by some vote kickers. There should be a severe limit on the amount of times you can vote kick during say 24 hours and combine this with the vote kicked player not being able to rejoin that specific group during that specific run but other than that more effort needs to be put towards resolving the vote kick abuse going on than tackling long term afk non-contributing players.
    That has been my experience, been kicked out numerous time for no reason. The last time happened just a few days ago when I was doing my duty roulette high level on my summoner, I was kicked just when we arrived at the first boss. When I was leveling pugilist for the cross-skills for my bard and ninja, someone complained about my low DPS and asked me why I did not have the monk job, since it boosts DPS, so I said I was solely doing it for the cross-skills for my bard and had no intention to get the monk job, and I was kicked on the spot.
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korbash View Post
    That has been my experience, been kicked out numerous time for no reason. The last time happened just a few days ago when I was doing my duty roulette high level on my summoner, I was kicked just when we arrived at the first boss. When I was leveling pugilist for the cross-skills for my bard and ninja, someone complained about my low DPS and asked me why I did not have the monk job, since it boosts DPS, so I said I was solely doing it for the cross-skills for my bard and had no intention to get the monk job, and I was kicked on the spot.
    Where on earth were you that they kicked you for not having your MNK stone? And what skill where you trying to get? Mantra?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    Where on earth were you that they kicked you for not having your MNK stone? And what skill where you trying to get? Mantra?
    I was kicked while doing Cutter's Cry. And it was to get to LV 42 for Mantra indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    Where on earth were you that they kicked you for not having your MNK stone? And what skill where you trying to get? Mantra?
    nothing news, go into CT, ST or WoD w/o stone can get the other 23 upset
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    M'kael Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    There should not be a vote kick 30 minute penalty however on the person vote kicked because vote kicking has become very abused in terms of kicking so some people have greater chance at drops, vote kicking because a group wanted to replace someone with their friend, vote kicking for laughs and giggles by groups or out of spite and as such the vote kicked person should not be punished on top of what they already are in terms of all the time they end up wasting when queued to get in and effort they may have put in to clearing the content up to that stage before was vote kicked.
    SE dug their own hole with vote kick abuse when they allowed majority rule for arbitrary reasons instead of reserving it solely for afks and griefers.
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