"I Was Out of That!" (Some Life Lessons)

[Anna_Lannis]

People should *NOT* be PUGing high-level content. At least not expecting wins/loot/etc. Anyone who goes into a random party with expectations is asking for it.

It's really fundamentally wrong to go into DF and expect literally anything on NA servers (which is the problem), you could get anyone with any level of experience and any kind of attitude. They could be nice, they could be friendly, they could teach you the fight, or they could make fun of you every time you made a tiny mistake. It's random and holding all these people to a level of high moral standard is just not very smart.

That's the whole point of having a DF in the first place. To experience random people you would not have any experience with. You know, because MMO...

[SpookyGhost]

People should *NOT* be PUGing high-level content. At least not expecting wins/loot/etc. Anyone who goes into a random party with expectations is asking for it.

S'my point, yeah.

That's the whole point of having a DF in the first place. To experience random people you would not have any experience with. You know, because MMO...

Correct, and I think DF is fantastic for 4man dungeons and the HM primals, however rolling the dice on hard content (EX/Coil) just isn't going to end well for you no matter how experienced (or inexperienced) you are. :V

[raelgun]

People should *NOT* be PUGing high-level content. At least not expecting wins/loot/etc. Anyone who goes into a random party with expectations is asking for it.



That's the whole point of having a DF in the first place. To experience random people you would not have any experience with. You know, because MMO...

Actually there should be expectation, if you enter PVE content there should be some skill involved, you got there in the first place.

PVE content does have requirements so people should fulfil it, it sounds like you have a grudge against experienced players who actually get results, people who do not fulfil the requirements of a dungeon are the ones asking for it.