More fun times in WoD

[ElHeggunte]

There was no slack, as I've said several times already. So there goes your point. Also, I recall a thread a bit back that involved a raid made of 3 tanks and 21 scholars. They cleared WoD. If they can do that, I highly doubt 1 CNJ is going to severely impact a raid.

Thanks for the people supporting me, you obviously have a sense of fun

I didn't cause any harm to anyone and enjoyed myself more than I would have if I would have went in as a whm for the billionth time. I'm glad some people see that :3

I didn't say you personally slacked. If I'm doing lvl50 content and I see someone without their soulstone experience tells me I should assume the worst from their performance. If you went in as CNJ and still played well, good for you. But you're the exception, not the rule so people's reactions are to be expected. Plus if you did that well as CNJ you would have done even better as WHM.

In the grand scheme of things, did it cause a lot of harm? No, probably not. However, that brings me back to my original question: if everyone else forwent the use of their stone too do you think your group would have done better or worse?

You also can't begin to compare a coordinated premade (made up of a borderline hybrid class no less) with your average WoD group, half of whom may as well be afk or have never heard the word "rotation" before. The only thing it proves is that a good group can clear relatively easy content with suboptinal comp.

And while "fun" is subjective, I don't at all see what's so entertaining about playing a weaker version of your Job.

[Adire]

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I wouldn't have done any better actually, lol. As I've said several times, I kept my party alive and healed to full health and raised other parties when I saw that they needed it. Isn't that exactly what a WHM could have done? I never spotted a time when benediction would have made a difference, never saw the need for divine seal. Being a WHM would have only made me overheal.

And I already answered that question. What do you think has more of an impact on a group? One conjurer when there should be a WHM, or 21 scholars when there should be 6 healers and 15 dps? I'm aware that a coordinated group is superior to a pug. But unintended jobs still made up 15/24 of that raid. That alone will impact the flow of the raid more than one person who is playing without a soulstone. One person who is completely inept in WoD never makes a noticeable difference in its ability to be completed if enough others know what they're doing, so why would a competent CNJ not being a WHM make a difference?

That's still far more of an impact than one conjurer will have. I've even seen people solo heal a party before in WoD...


And as I said before. I enjoy challenging myself and wanted to do something different from the usual boring mindless grind.

Also,

I don't care what your role is or how skilled you are. If I see someone as a class in lvl50 content I automatically assume they're okay with letting everyone else pick up their slack.

Is this not you assuming that I'm slacking and okay with it? Given the context of this thread, it strongly insinuates that you are. If you weren't though, I apologize, but you would have assumed wrongly of me regardless had we met in this WoD run.

[ElHeggunte]

Is this not you assuming that I'm slacking and okay with it? Given the context of this thread, it strongly insinuates that you are. If you weren't though, I apologize, but you would have assumed wrongly of me regardless had we met in this WoD run.

No, I should have been more clear. Not necessarily you, since your story tells otherwise, but if I see someone at the start of a duty as a class I'm going to assume they're a slacker and dont mind being carried. Someone playing without their stone may well go on to prove they're skilled enough that it doesn't matter much (such as you did apparently), but general experience has shown me that 9 times out of 10, someone on a class in a place like WoD will be about as useful as bifocals on a blind man.