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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    So basically you'll most likely NEED normal mode's gear to clear extreme mode.
    There is no official statement, that tell us this. Just players speculation.

    In my eyes it would be wrong to do it this way. I did all coils before it gone DF, got echo and nerfs and I want enjoy the Alexander story like in coil before and not in the easy mode.
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    Last edited by KarstenS; 04-15-2015 at 03:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    There is no official statement, that tell us this. Just players speculation.

    In my eyes it would be wrong to do it this way. I did all coils before it gone DF, got echo and nerfs and I want enjoy the Alexander story like in coil before and not in the easy mode.
    Not sure Coil was doable in the first days without a good load of i70 gear. It will be the same for Alexander. If you don't want to go in alexander normal mode, if you're not totally locked out because it's advertised as savage mode (T6-9 savage required normal mode completion), you'll need a hell lot more time just to meet the gear requirement than anyone else who will be getting 4 piece of gear a week starting 2 weeks in advance. Just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    There is no official statement, that tell us this. Just players speculation.

    In my eyes it would be wrong to do it this way. I did all coils before it gone DF, got echo and nerfs and I want enjoy the Alexander story like in coil before and not in the easy mode.
    There is. In one of the lives Yoshida said that clearing the normal mode and obtaining the normal mode gear is required to clear the hard mode. He is fully aware that Lucrezia pretty much pushed FCoB down in week one in mostly IL110 gear, but he is pretty sure that you will need the normal mode gear to touch the hard mode.

    The hard mode is like SCoB Savage when it was released where you want to be in the highest level gear. Yoshida said that Alex HM will be equal to savage or higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    There is. In one of the lives Yoshida said that clearing the normal mode and obtaining the normal mode gear is required to clear the hard mode.
    Source? I've watches all live letters, read all summarys and all interviews I've found. He always stated, the "normal" mode will be for people, that want to enjoy the story, but have issues to get through the "regular" raid. Nothing about requirements for each of them. Its the answer to It's about time to add Coil story mode, isn't it ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Yoshida said that Alex HM will be equal to savage or higher.
    No he said:

    - the hard mode will be like FCoB, but a little bit harder
    - the normal mode will be like SCoB with nerf and echo
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    Last edited by KarstenS; 04-15-2015 at 07:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    He is fully aware that Lucrezia pretty much pushed FCoB down in week one in mostly IL110 gear, but he is pretty sure that you will need the normal mode gear to touch the hard mode.
    He'll be wrong, at least for Lucrezia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    He'll be wrong, at least for Lucrezia.
    If you get a fixed 8k damage, and there is no way to reach 8k HP without the gear, nothing can be done :P (just for illustration purposes)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grotesque View Post
    If you get a fixed 8k damage, and there is no way to reach 8k HP without the gear, nothing can be done :P (just for illustration purposes)
    It would have to be tuned extremely tightly. Full i110 crafted accessories melded with VIT will give you a pretty large chunk of health, so it would have to be to the point where it's impossible to meet the DPS check without full [whatever] accessories. Maybe they'll really put the effort in to make Savage extremely tightly tuned, but I just kinda doubt it, especially if they expect other raiders to clear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    It would have to be tuned extremely tightly. Full i110 crafted accessories melded with VIT will give you a pretty large chunk of health, so it would have to be to the point where it's impossible to meet the DPS check without full [whatever] accessories. Maybe they'll really put the effort in to make Savage extremely tightly tuned, but I just kinda doubt it, especially if they expect other raiders to clear it.
    We're getting a level increase to 60, which wont effect any ilvl 50+ gear's item levels, and we're getting new and more powerful gear. It would not suprise me in the least if Alexander's normal mode has an iLvl requirement of 200+ let alone the savage mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    He'll be wrong, at least for Lucrezia.
    well tbh, noone expects to stop Lucrezia or similar groups with something as meaningless as "not enough gear" if they don't get instantly wrecked by the attacks with no way to mitigate more ^^

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    We're getting a level increase to 60, which wont effect any ilvl 50+ gear's item levels, and we're getting new and more powerful gear. It would not suprise me in the least if Alexander's normal mode has an iLvl requirement of 200+ let alone the savage mode.
    from what 2.0 coil said to us, Alexander normal ilvl requirement will be the basic farmable stuff for most groups. Hardcore groups will probably clear most of it still with dungeon drops or high end crafting gear depending on how fast they cleared content before preparing for the open gates. Then they'll stomp Alexander savage with as little gear as they could gather to upgrade their stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    from what 2.0 coil said to us, Alexander normal ilvl requirement will be the basic farmable stuff for most groups. Hardcore groups will probably clear most of it still with dungeon drops or high end crafting gear depending on how fast they cleared content before preparing for the open gates. Then they'll stomp Alexander savage with as little gear as they could gather to upgrade their stuff
    That's true, I think The Order of the Blue Garter cleared T5 with i70 gear and what ever else they picked up in coil on the way. Sub-Par players nothing, not even nerfs, will help. Average Players good gear and team work can over come individual difficulties. But to the true Elite among Elites, Gear is completely irrelevant to their skill level and they will be able to clear ANY content with relative ease.

    They don't represent the difficulty the average player will experience but they are a good example of my favorite saying "Skill trumps Gear".
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