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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    All I see is more people here who clearly don't have any knowledge of basic statistics and random distributions continuing to spread poor information around like this.
    Well, thank you so much for your amazing contribution to this thread. I think we are all fully aware that if it's not 100%, there's a chance of failure. Based on your rude, condescending attitude, you must consider yourself the foremost expert on video game RNG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    The game in no way shape or form goes extra special out of it's way to screw players. All I see is more people here who clearly don't have any knowledge of basic statistics and random distributions continuing to spread poor information around like this.
    You clearly have not had the RNG i have had then... just saying
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Well, thank you so much for your amazing contribution to this thread. I think we are all fully aware that if it's not 100%, there's a chance of failure. Based on your rude, condescending attitude, you must consider yourself the foremost expert on video game RNG.
    The thing is, Tiggy is 100% correct, there are many people in this topic making comments about statistical probability who do not understand even the basic elements of probability. RNG is RNG, probability is probability, truth is truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niurok View Post
    Even on Excalibur they have gone back to the teleporting underground ways...
    Saw this yesterday in fact just south of Fallgourd, I was amazed to see two in sync doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    The thing is, Tiggy is 100% correct, there are many people in this topic making comments about statistical probability who do not understand even the basic elements of probability. RNG is RNG, probability is probability, truth is truth.
    Yup, they just can't handle reality for what it is and get mad that someone has to point out the simple truth of it. Gambler's fallacies abound.

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Well, thank you so much for your amazing contribution to this thread. I think we are all fully aware that if it's not 100%, there's a chance of failure. Based on your rude, condescending attitude, you must consider yourself the foremost expert on video game RNG.
    Go study statistics. It's a high school level class. It's not that hard. Don't blame me because you don't understand it.

    You might find
    Gamber's Fallacy
    and
    Bayes Theorem
    to be particularly relevant and enlightening.

    Additionally we have this.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2310334

    The post by Camate, a Square representative, detailing their process a bit. This post was specifically made in response to poor statements about the rng like you and others continue to make.

    You may not like what I have to say, but it doesn't change it's accuracy.
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 04-15-2015 at 02:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuro89 View Post
    The only thing that's been bothering me has been the gil spammer tells that have been noticeably increasing in volume every single day. Sure, /busy is a quick fix, but you can't receive tells from actual people that way either. It's a big problem that needs to be remedied asap, and in my opinion before anything else is addressed.
    Yea it has got bad on utros.. It actually is got to the point where I consider it harassment. Busy does not even stop them anymore because now they just use constant shouts. SE sits there and says how well this game is doing and how many accounts there are. People say the cash shop should give SE more money to make this game better. Well use that money to make the game better and hire some more GM's to ban these guys.. It wouldn't be hard especially to stop all the damn bots all over.
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    You can't come and say that at some point all players have the same amount of good or bad luck, that would be completely false. Some can have constant good luck while others not so.
    Yes RNG is RNG but it does in fact favour some players, not by choice but just how the system is
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    Don't tell me what I do and do not understand. I never posted one comment in this thread that indicated I was trying to spread bad/incorrect information about RNG.

    My post was based solely on the experiences I've had in this game. If you don't like people posting about experiences they've had in game, you should not be part of a public forum.
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    The RMTs are really bad on Adamantoise as well. By the time I was done with the loading screen, I got 3 tells and 2 friend requests. I am starting to really lose faith in SE. What's the point of playing if I can't talk to a lot of my friends because we are all on /busy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Don't tell me what I do and do not understand. I never posted one comment in this thread that indicated I was trying to spread bad/incorrect information about RNG.
    Your complaints conveyed a distinct lack of understand about how random distributions work. Your observations do nothing but prove the statistics accurate. Trying to save face now I guess. *cheers*

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    If you don't like people posting about experiences they've had in game, you should not be part of a public forum.
    If you don't like people disagreeing with you then you shouldn't be a part of a public forum. I'm perfectly fine with you talking about your experiences. I have problems when incorrect assumptions are made about the nature of the game based on those experiences which are then pushed on others as some sort of "truth". You've continued to propagate a false assumption that there is something wrong with the RNG. By continuing to act like there is something wrong with the rng and the streaks you ARE propagating to more members of the community that there is a problem. Literally nothing stops them from assuming that you, as a frequent forum poster, may know more than they do therefore your opinion spreads. Idea's are like viruses. Including, unfortunately, bad ones.

    As this is a forum you chose to put that statement here and make it open for comment. That's how forums work. You don't get to choose which comments get to me made and which don't. I even provided information you should read that shows why your assumption about the rng is wrong. You need to find a way to deal with it. Attempting to disparage me won't change statistics or rng.
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 04-15-2015 at 02:43 AM. Reason: edited for clarity

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