Please start the new jobs at level 1

[Stormrider]

They should just announce EXPANSION 50+ new players need not apply. If you didn't want FF14 before nothing new here till 50. They might as well have made them 50 since they are gated behind 50 content. If they had any rules about race change I am surprised that isn't "Please look forward to it." /whisper after you finish all the old stuff.

[Cutie_McSnuggles]

I just want to clarify some things for people. ^^

1. The "This is a Job not a Class" argument.

This makes me giggle every time. Of course these are Jobs, how dumb do you think people are? But what is the difference between a Class and a Job? A piece of equipment. Sure you unlock it at level 30 but once you have it you are free to sync down to any level content the game requires and you are still that Job. Syncing sub 30 doesn't suddenly make you a Class again. So since these new Jobs are classless there is no reason, lore wise or system wise, that they can't start at level 1.

2. The "leveling = tutorial" argument.

While it's true that leveling up is a great way to learn your class, I have total faith that the player base is capable of picking up these new jobs at level 30 or even 50 and being able to figure them out no problem. This game really isn't that complicated.

All I'm trying to say is that "I" want to level from 1-whatever because "I" find it enjoyable.

Thank you for your time. ^^ Please continue to leave your thoughts and feed back, but please be nice to each other.

[Lori]

I just want to clarify some things for people. ^^
2. The "leveling = tutorial" argument.

While it's true that leveling up is a great way to learn your class, I have total faith that the player base is capable of picking up these new jobs at level 30 or even 50 and being able to figure them out no problem. This game really isn't that complicated.

All I'm trying to say is that "I" want to level from 1-whatever because "I" find it enjoyable.

Thank you for your time. ^^ Please continue to leave your thoughts and feed back, but please be nice to each other.

How could you possibly have faith in that when they haven't even learned the classes we've had since launch?

The game isn't complicated at all, you're right. But for some reason, people just don't seem to want to get better at a VIDEO GAME (which is like, one of the main objectives of playing one to begin with) and would rather complain about making it easier for them then to actually practice.

[Zaft]

They should just announce EXPANSION 50+ new players need not apply. If you didn't want FF14 before nothing new here till 50. They might as well have made them 50 since they are gated behind 50 content. If they had any rules about race change I am surprised that isn't "Please look forward to it." /whisper after you finish all the old stuff.

You realize this is what nearly every MMO in the history of MMOs does, right? Expansion = new, higher level, more difficult content. They might redesign or adjust some lower level stuff, but generally speaking, an expansion focuses on new content, not old.

[SDaemon]

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1. In terms of lore you have no level and in terms of the system there is no reason for these new jobs to start at 1 as they are something new to the current class/job system.

2. You wish to tack on 30 extra levels to these new jobs simply for the sake of leveling through the mind numbing and outdated content that will most likely amount to FATE and tutorial dungeon spamming. Fair enough.

[TheRogueX]

You realize this is what nearly every MMO in the history of MMOs does, right? Expansion = new, higher level, more difficult content. They might redesign or adjust some lower level stuff, but generally speaking, an expansion focuses on new content, not old.

Except for, let's see.. oh yes, the 800lb Gorilla in the room! Burning Crusade, Cataclysm, Mists of Panderia.. they all included new, low-level content. That's 3 out of 5 expansions for WoW. While you could argue 'hey, they released new races in those 3 expansions!' you'd sorta be forgetting about the Au Ra. Yes, I know they're gating the new jobs but not the new race, but still.. they could have added new low-level content for the new jobs.

Ultimately, though, I don't care that they're releasing them at 30, particularly because they *didn't* give new low-level content, and grinding from 30-50 is already going to be annoying FATE+dungeon spam as it is... having to start from level 1 with no quests would be a drag.

[Zaft]

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Burning Crusade released two new low level areas for the two new races. Mists of Pandaria released one new low level area for the one new race. Neither included new low level dungeons, new low level "activities", no brand new system to facilitate leveling, etc. The content that was released for low levels was only to get them from level 1-18 or so, and it's only because each race has its own starting zone in WoW (something we DO NOT have here). Everything else was intended for max level audiences.

Cataclysm is really the only one that has a leg here. Much of the point of that expansion was entirely redoing the 1-58 leveling process, as it felt very weak and boring compared to the new content.

[ProphetMagnus]

I'd like to have them at lvl 1 but lvl 30 is also fine. Either way I'll have no issues learning how to play the classes and choosing which ones I want/don't want to play seriously

[Sapphic]

Burning Crusade released two new low level areas for the two new races. Mists of Pandaria released one new low level area for the one new race. Neither included new low level dungeons, new low level "activities", no brand new system to facilitate leveling, etc. The content that was released for low levels was only to get them from level 1-18 or so, and it's only because each race has its own starting zone in WoW (something we DO NOT have here). Everything else was intended for max level audiences.

Forget to take into account that FFXIV you can have all jobs on one character, whereas WoW was one class for one character. WAnted to play one of the new classes? You made a new character. So all those quests you levelled up on your other chars are now available again on your new char playing the new class..

[Ditto]

Personally I'd like to see the new jobs start at the lowest level possible, if not 1, then 15 which would be right at where they can start doing dungeons so they don't have to do the mindless 1 - 15 grind.

I just don't like when games create 'krutch' classes that people only decide to level, well, because 'The developers already did half of it for me'

I don't want Dark Knight, Gunner or whatever it's called, or Astro turning into those jobs that everyone has capped because it was already halfway done for them. They're already attractive 'new' jobs as is, don't need to give everyone and their grandmother more reason to jump on the bandwagon.