RMT, I'm seriously pissed! >:<

[Radkat]

Actually, the thread I'm thinking of is this one. OP is from Masamune.

The irony of you calling me naïve, is that it takes great naivete to assume that the players from Japan are all humble, hardworking people. It's incredibly naïve to ascribe one mindset to all people from a country.

Actually, it is definitely not naive to believe that a majority of japanese are humble. By your assumption, then there is absolutely no cultural difference between people from anywhere? That is definitely untrue.

[Teryaani]

Actually, it is definitely not naive to believe that a majority of japanese are humble. By your assumption, then there is absolutely no cultural difference between people from anywhere? That is definitely untrue.

I love how me saying "You can't generalize about a population" becomes me saying "there are no cultural differences between anyone".

You're claiming that the JP players would almost never buy gil. I'm saying that not only would they, but they do. Not every JP player does, just like most NA/EU players don't.

[Radkat]

I love how me saying "You can't generalize about a population" becomes me saying "there are no cultural differences between anyone".

You're claiming that the JP players would almost never buy gil. I'm saying that not only would they, but they do. Not every JP player does, just like most NA/EU players don't.

Í have never disputed that some jp players would buy gil. But that most of them don't. Nowhere have I ever generalised anything. I back up my statement with proof that RMT find it unprofitable to ad spam and lose accounts. Now, where is your proof that many jp players buy gil - you ARE saying that many of them buy gil, arent you?

[Teryaani]

Í have never disputed that some jp players would buy gil. But that most of them don't. Nowhere have I ever generalised anything. I back up my statement with proof that RMT find it unprofitable to ad spam and lose accounts. Now, where is your proof that many jp players buy gil - you ARE saying that many of them buy gil, arent you?

I'm not saying that. Allow me to summarize my argument:

RMT Traders have found it unprofitable to use /tell spam on JP servers due to differences in enforcement mechanisms (and possible availability of safer avenues to buy gil). The fact that the sellers can spam the NA/EU servers with impunity and it helps them get more customers drives the rates of gil buying up in those data centers.

Were SE to implement better controls on NA/EU servers, the rates would drop drastically along with the number of compromised accounts. My theory is that they would drop to levels similar to the JP data centers.

I don't think the majority of players on ANY data center buy gil. Calling NA/EU players "incompetent" is pretty lame btw.

[Radkat]

I'm not saying that. Allow me to summarize my argument:

RMT Traders have found it unprofitable to use /tell spam on JP servers due to differences in enforcement mechanisms (and possible availability of safer avenues to buy gil). The fact that the sellers can spam the NA/EU servers with impunity and it helps them get more customers drives the rates of gil buying up in those data centers.

Were SE to implement better controls on NA/EU servers, the rates would drop drastically along with the number of compromised accounts. My theory is that they would drop to levels similar to the JP data centers.

I don't think the majority of players on ANY data center buy gil. Calling NA/EU players "incompetent" is pretty lame btw.

Your enforcement differences refer to the text filters, is that right? The text filters mainly deal with web addresses, but then, even JP web addresses are in english, so that really makes not much difference. There hasn't been a major crackdown on gilbuyers so far, so all avenues are equally safe so far.

I called NA/EU players who buy gil incompetent, and I will stick to that. I will also call ALL gilbuyers of ANY race incompetent. This is one generalisation I will make.

[Teryaani]

Your enforcement differences refer to the text filters, is that right? The text filters mainly deal with web addresses, but then, even JP web addresses are in english, so that really makes not much difference. There hasn't been a major crackdown on gilbuyers so far, so all avenues are equally safe so far.

The text filters deal with keyword searches as well. Near as I can tell from visiting several sites that have also prompted me to do full virus scans on my machine, your server has an ample number of gil buyers based on the supply numbers and price.

I called NA/EU players who buy gil incompetent, and I will stick to that. I will also call gilbuyers of ANY race incompetent.

"SE's main playerbase - the japanese, don't have this problem in their servers because they generally aren't incompetent enough to need to buy gil. "

Allow me to quote that for you and point out what you implied there. We're suffering from gil sellers because we are, in aggregate, less competent. You want to play the racism card and not get called on it. I'm calling you on it.

[Radkat]

The text filters deal with keyword searches as well. Near as I can tell from visiting several sites that have also prompted me to do full virus scans on my machine, your server has an ample number of gil buyers based on the supply numbers and price.

There are definitely RMT selling gil in all servers, just because they charge the same doesn't mean they are selling the same. It would anger customers to charge differently according to servers.

"SE's main playerbase - the japanese, don't have this problem in their servers because they generally aren't incompetent enough to need to buy gil. "

Allow me to quote that for you and point out what you implied there. We're suffering from gil sellers because we are, in aggregate, less competent. You want to play the racism card and not get called on it. I'm calling you on it.

You're calling me on it? I'M calling MYSELF on it! You DO have a lot more incompetent gilbuying players on your NA/EU servers causing these RMT problems. I have said already, and I will say again. There are more incompetent gilbuyers among the EU/NA community than there are in the JP community. Race card PLAYED. I stand by my claim that RMTs don't make enough profit in JP servers to risk losing ad spam accounts, showing that RMT activity is low there.

[ElHeggunte]

Í have never disputed that some jp players would buy gil. But that most of them don't. Nowhere have I ever generalised anything. I back up my statement with proof that RMT find it unprofitable to ad spam and lose accounts. Now, where is your proof that many jp players buy gil - you ARE saying that many of them buy gil, arent you?

You've done nothing but generalize in most of your replies. You're actually getting dangerously close to "weeboing" here and I hate using that word. There also doesn't have to be a lot of players who buy gil, there just needs to be enough. The very fact that RMT exist on JP servers in the first place (even in small amounts) is proof that plenty of players over there use their services.

[Radkat]

You've done nothing but generalize in most of your replies. You're actually getting dangerously close to "weeboing" here and I hate using that word. There also doesn't have to be a lot of players who buy gil, there just needs to be enough. The very fact that RMT exist on JP servers in the first place (even in small amounts) is proof that plenty of players over there use their services.

Generalisation is to make sweeping statements, and usually starts with "ÁLL", or "NONE". Saying 'many' or 'few' is not a generalisation. Otherwise everything except 'équal amounts' would be a generalisation!