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    Alexion Skylark
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    Kinda... if you throw cross-class in the mix, stuff can get messy... specially if other jobs can get cross-class skills FROM the new jobs. As it is right now, you can get CLASS skills as cross class, but not JOB. How will that work in the future, when they add more jobs? Will the new jobs be able to get skills from each other?
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark View Post
    Kinda... if you throw cross-class in the mix, stuff can get messy... specially if other jobs can get cross-class skills FROM the new jobs. As it is right now, you can get CLASS skills as cross class, but not JOB. How will that work in the future, when they add more jobs? Will the new jobs be able to get skills from each other?
    I believe the idea is to treat the new jobs as "Classes with particular benefits and restrictions in place to make them feel like a Job." This also means that specific abilities from this class will be able to be cross-classed.
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    Imbri Undinare
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark View Post
    Kinda... if you throw cross-class in the mix, stuff can get messy... specially if other jobs can get cross-class skills FROM the new jobs. As it is right now, you can get CLASS skills as cross class, but not JOB. How will that work in the future, when they add more jobs? Will the new jobs be able to get skills from each other?
    You might have "cross class" skills divided up in to types: Tank / DPS / Healing. Paladin has access to Tank/Healing. War to Tank/DPS. Maybe Dark Knight will have Tank/Caster or Tank/DPS too, who knows? We'll have to wait and find out.
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    Robin Ster
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark View Post
    Kinda... if you throw cross-class in the mix, stuff can get messy... specially if other jobs can get cross-class skills FROM the new jobs. As it is right now, you can get CLASS skills as cross class, but not JOB. How will that work in the future, when they add more jobs? Will the new jobs be able to get skills from each other?
    You're overthinking it. Every skill has a list of classes that can use it. That's the real criterion for a skill being cross-class. They could add PLD to Benediction's list, if they wanted.
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    Skadi Felis
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark View Post
    Kinda... if you throw cross-class in the mix, stuff can get messy... specially if other jobs can get cross-class skills FROM the new jobs. As it is right now, you can get CLASS skills as cross class, but not JOB. How will that work in the future, when they add more jobs? Will the new jobs be able to get skills from each other?
    The new jobs can get cross-skill from the old classes (2 of them), but the old jobs can't get cross-skills from the new ones. Like it was with Ninja.

    If the old classes (not jobs) can get cross-skills from the new jobs, we will see.

    The armory system was much more uncomplicated before the job system got added to it, in my opinion ^^
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    Last edited by Felis; 04-14-2015 at 09:48 AM.

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    Caoihmin Salamone
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    Archer Lv 50
    What about gear? I have asked several times if the gear we have stored will be usable (i.e PAL for Dark, WHM for AST, etc.) for these new jobs. Otherwise, GC seals a'plenty.
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    Ximena Reign
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    Zalera
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    Scholar Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Caoihmin View Post
    What about gear? I have asked several times if the gear we have stored will be usable (i.e PAL for Dark, WHM for AST, etc.) for these new jobs. Otherwise, GC seals a'plenty.
    Of course. They all obviously have their roles, and those roles obviously have their armors (DRK = tank = GLA/PLD/MRD/WAR gear will get DRK added to it). They'll likely just fit them into old gear like they did with ROG/NIN. There's no reason to keep any gear pre-30 though since they're starting at 30 - I'm getting rid of all of my non-unique (not Foestrikers, Acolyte, etc) gear as soon as I hit 30 on my last two classes.
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    There is no apostrophe in Au Ra.
    Stop adding one three years later.

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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caoihmin View Post
    What about gear? I have asked several times if the gear we have stored will be usable (i.e PAL for Dark, WHM for AST, etc.) for these new jobs. Otherwise, GC seals a'plenty.
    Astrologian will be able to wear Astrologian gear, all class gear (or it would be not fair), Healer gear and DoM gear, but not WHM gear (like WHM AF or PVP).

    Quote Originally Posted by Arupopo View Post
    Remove classes Change jobs into classes. Remove souls.

    Make all jobs start at level 1 skills cross-able, except those skills that the guilds sell. It really doesn't do anything interesting imo. Keep the Job specific quests for 30+. And change THM and CNJ back how they were at 1.0 launch
    I changed it a bit
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    Last edited by Felis; 04-14-2015 at 06:04 PM.