Sooo... how are the new jobs gonna interact with classes?

[HeavensSword]

Yea don't over think it.

- You will equip a Greatsword to change into DRK
- You will start at lvl 30.
- You will have a number of skills appropriate for a job of that level

- The end.

The real question is whether SE will allow the new jobs to have any cross skills with existing classes.

[Ghishlain]

Kinda... if you throw cross-class in the mix, stuff can get messy... specially if other jobs can get cross-class skills FROM the new jobs. As it is right now, you can get CLASS skills as cross class, but not JOB. How will that work in the future, when they add more jobs? Will the new jobs be able to get skills from each other?

I believe the idea is to treat the new jobs as "Classes with particular benefits and restrictions in place to make them feel like a Job." This also means that specific abilities from this class will be able to be cross-classed.

[TheMunimai]

OK, so when you equip a greatsword, you change job to DRK. And then, what? you automatically start with 6 to 7 skills pertaining to what the other classes have up to lvl 30?

YES! From what we have gathered that will be exactly it!

You'll equip the weapon (Greatsword for example) and will start off at level 30 with I dunno 10 abilities.

[Reiryuu]

Kinda... if you throw cross-class in the mix, stuff can get messy... specially if other jobs can get cross-class skills FROM the new jobs. As it is right now, you can get CLASS skills as cross class, but not JOB. How will that work in the future, when they add more jobs? Will the new jobs be able to get skills from each other?

You might have "cross class" skills divided up in to types: Tank / DPS / Healing. Paladin has access to Tank/Healing. War to Tank/DPS. Maybe Dark Knight will have Tank/Caster or Tank/DPS too, who knows? We'll have to wait and find out.

[Rbstr]

Kinda... if you throw cross-class in the mix, stuff can get messy... specially if other jobs can get cross-class skills FROM the new jobs. As it is right now, you can get CLASS skills as cross class, but not JOB. How will that work in the future, when they add more jobs? Will the new jobs be able to get skills from each other?

You're overthinking it. Every skill has a list of classes that can use it. That's the real criterion for a skill being cross-class. They could add PLD to Benediction's list, if they wanted.

[RukiaFae]

It may work that if you any dps class then you can the machinist*sp, if you have any healer class then you can get th astrolgian*sp job, if you have any tank class then you can get the DRK job. This seems like an easier way to keep system simple with out changing it too much. Its seems easier to have these classes unlock these jobs.Just my thought.

[HeavensSword]

It may work that if you any dps class then you can the machinist*sp, if you have any healer class then you can get th astrolgian*sp job, if you have any tank class then you can get the DRK job. This seems like an easier way to keep system simple with out changing it too much. Its seems easier to have these classes unlock these jobs.Just my thought.

Honestly I think it will be as easy as just accepting the Job quest for each. I don't think they will gate it behind any Job/Class requirements; it's already gated behind 2.x story line.

[thunderbreak]

I mean, Yoshi-P told since the beggining that they won'y function like the jobs we have today, and they won't have a class associated with them. But we still have no clue as to how exactly they would happen, except that they'll get their quest at lvl 30.

What does that mean? I'll be able to equip a DRK soulstone in my lvl 50 CNJ, and it'll use all my CNJ abilities? then I equip a spear and put the DRK soulstone in it, retaining my LNC abilities? Or Yoshi-P took his words back and like, DRK will be an alternate job of GLA in the same way ACNs can be SCH or SMN? Or maybe there is not a DRK soul stone and if we follow the correct terminology, DRK is not a classless job, but a jobless class?

Was this ever adressed, or are we still waiting for answers on that?

Think Death Knights from WoW.

[TheRogueX]

The whole job/class thing/terminology imo is a very stupid concept from that leaves really no room to expand upon (like trying to make DRK an alternate of GLA or THF an alternate of ROG)

Incorrect. It has the potential to be extremely powerful, it was just done way wrong.

[Felis]

Kinda... if you throw cross-class in the mix, stuff can get messy... specially if other jobs can get cross-class skills FROM the new jobs. As it is right now, you can get CLASS skills as cross class, but not JOB. How will that work in the future, when they add more jobs? Will the new jobs be able to get skills from each other?

The new jobs can get cross-skill from the old classes (2 of them), but the old jobs can't get cross-skills from the new ones. Like it was with Ninja.

If the old classes (not jobs) can get cross-skills from the new jobs, we will see.

The armory system was much more uncomplicated before the job system got added to it, in my opinion ^^