Raid locks gone in 3.0? Possible negative consequences to statics...

[Cynfael]

A general observation:

The largely negative attitude towards "raiders" on these forums is mind-boggling to me...A) because it exists, and B) because people find raiders to be acceptable targets.

Since when did running Coil preclude players from being social gamers and active within their own FCs? The only arguably antisocial behavior that I've personally observed or practiced myself is choosing not to spend time carrying players who want to skip all intervening content and jump straight to getting end-game clears without actually needing to learn how to do it (I'd say that's what run selling is for), which is very different from helping self-motivated, active learners, of which I don't currently know very many who aren't now in my static or in someone else's already.

[Kuwagami]

The largely negative attitude towards "raiders" on these forums is mind-boggling to me...A) because it exists, and B) because people find raiders to be acceptable targets.

This has to do with the very toxic environment SOME raiders have set up in the early days (uproar because allagan weapons were only i90 like relic, uproar because i90 gear was available for "scrubs" not doing coil, etc etc...)

Then, every now and then, some people on either side (vitriolic non raiders or vitriolic raiders) throw some oil on the fire and the rage starts again.

Want examples ? Look at the thread I made about coil story mode. You can clearly see bad behaviors on either side or the stick.

[KazumaFaemura]

A general observation:

The largely negative attitude towards "raiders" on these forums is mind-boggling to me...A) because it exists, and B) because people find raiders to be acceptable targets.

The biggest issue is with the elitest raiders that think they are above everyone else and call those that have a harder time casuals and what not. Just look at the thread about someone wanting more 24 man raids verses the 8 man raids that there are. Someone tried to call me a casual with no evidence that even play casually (which I don't). I don't mind raiders, I just hate the ones that think they are gods among men.