So, this Scrip system...

[GenJoe]

I think it's nice they're putting in some variety in gearing.. At the same time, it makes me wonder how trivialized crafting will become.. Imagine if..

Specialist, no cross class skills, with scrip gear can make highest tier with ease.. let's just say 4 stars.. Specialist with scrip gear makes 4 stars with relative ease (that's what they're shooting for right?)

Then a specialist, WITH all the other classes leveled up. WITH materia melded gear.. That's 2 distinct upgrades over the crafter mentioned above, how trivial will it become for this guy? Will there be any sort of challenge for him? Any RNG that can result in him getting a nq? I feel like if that's the case, this person should be able to hq the item without even using hasty touch.. kind of like how 4 star crafters make 2 star items now.

Not a huge concern though, 4 star crafting is already pretty much 95%+ hq anyway.. just curious how the difficulty will pan out in 3.0

[Sibyll]

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Crafting is already trivial. They make glamours, housing furniture, niche combat gear, pets and BiS crafting/gathering gear. So the soul purpose of a crafter is to make gear for crafters and gathers... Yea I would say that's pretty trivial.

[GenJoe]

Crafting is already trivial. They make glamours, housing furniture, niche combat gear, pets and BiS crafting/gathering gear. So the soul purpose of a crafter is to make gear for crafters and gathers... Yea I would say that's pretty trivial.

Yes, but there's still a slight chance to nq 3 or 4 star items if RNG is not in your favor.. Earlier, I failed PbP twice, RS 4 times.. HT 3 times.. didn't have enough for the finisher so had to bait Good after hitting GS to get enough for Byregots.. on 10 stacks.. That kind of RNG is what makes crafting interesting I think.

But say, someone with melded gear + specialization + all the cross class skills is crafting something from his specialized craft, it would be like 4 star crafter making a 2 star item.. like I said, not a huge concern. I'm just genuinly curious.

[Sibyll]

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I think RNG can be interesting, but the type they have implemented is not. When you are given all the tools to handle the RNG that is thrown at you and the challenge is knowing how to adapt to that RNG, that's fine. However, if you aren't getting Good procs or get bad RNG on your hasty touches, and then fail your Reclaim you really can't do anything there. To me that isn't something that tests skill. It's lottery.

Just to reiterate, RNG is fine, but binary success/fail RNG is not a very interesting mechanic.

[GenJoe]

Just to reiterate, RNG is fine, but binary success/fail RNG is not a very interesting mechanic.

Agreed, current system of RNG can be combated.. with good rotation and foresight and high volume, but that can only go so far. I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of the 4 star crafters have very similar if not the exact same methodology about crafting. So there's little variation. I personally wouldn't mind if they made crafting a little more interesting, put a few more mechanics in. Maybe have 3 bars instead of 2. Third could be something like quantity bar for the base level mats.