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  1. #71
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    I'd be more inclined to agree with everyone that the jobs shouldn't start at 30 if 1-30 wasn't literally pointless in every way. Not like the game teaches you anything before that point about your job. Just throws you in a really easy dungeon that anyone could tank anything in, then a bunch of other ones that do the same thing. The point where you're actually forced to learn how to actually play is 30 with Haukke (to an extent) and Brayflox. Requiring completion of the main story actually gives me more hope for those starting DRK/AST/MCN since they'll have some semblance of an idea on how to do their role. I really don't see the problem with it, other than people who really want to grind the same dungeons over and over for 1-30 which... I can't say I understand.
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  2. #72
    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    Dererk Titan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post


    Again, you're just pulling excuses out of your rear. In FFXI the new jobs were also located in the new expansion areas, so there is abosultely nothing preventing them from doing the same here.
    ofcorse there is how do you get into Isgaurd then? People need to stop complaining about this there are no new classes their just jobs their specialty jobs that play in an advance way no reason for new players to be touching them till they have 1 of the other jobs at 50.

    Stop comparing this game to ffxi this is ffxiv see there's a v on it so it's a different game shocker huh?

    And the new race how it could be that it didn't break lore or the story hmmmmm oh I know they used magic like the sylphs to hid who they are or or they wore head coverings like yu giri but only we know what race they really are.

    I think maybe the vast majority of the npcs can't tell the difference between a fat chocobo and a dodo if it's painted yellow.
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    Last edited by Dererk; 04-11-2015 at 11:29 PM.

  3. #73
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    Leveling up jobs is one of my favorite things in this game. It's a big letdown that we're losing out on levels 1-30, though not unexpected considering previous interviews.
    how many jobs have you leveled up from 1-29 in XIV? ^^

    People can also just do FATEs from 1-30 (10 FATEs for every 5 level range) and the lv17-30 dungeons 3 times each. This should be like level up from 1-30
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  4. #74
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirakumi View Post
    I'm just love a good story. For the new jobs to be open right away feels like it's not as adventerous as it should be. In games like FF6 per say, you go out and you look for this class. You aren't rewarded at the start with Shadow or whatever. You had to progress to earn. So this is what it's like for me. Opinions. Mine, sorry to intrude on some peoples gameplayu.
    Astrologian would make more sense to start somewhere that current AST's already reside. Namely: the First Dicasterial Observatorium of Aetherial and Astrological Phenomena. This is found in Coerthas.

    Dark Knight will probably start off in one of the new zones.

    MCH... well, that's most likely going to be locked behind Ishgard, which is fine to me, since it's just a DPS (and we have plenty of those already). If SE locked the new healer and new tank behind a plot wall, however, that would be an incredibly silly thing to do (gameplay > plot in MMO's). What if newbie tanks don't want to be a PLD or WAR? what if newbie healers don't want to be a WHM or SCH (which would first require them to be a DPS)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dererk View Post
    And the new race how it could be that it didn't break lore or the story hmmmmm oh I know they used magic like the sylphs to hid who they are or or they wore head coverings like yu giri but only we know what race they really are..
    That's some M. Night Shyamalan terrible storytelling right there :/
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    Last edited by Nestama; 04-11-2015 at 11:36 PM.

  5. #75
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    Lady Zelda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    ..
    You know I actually thought Astrological would start in Coerthas too. So I was surprised as well.
    Makes me think of Dragon Age. Like all the Astrolgians were whisked away behind Ishgard for a certain reason like the Gray Wardens.
    Maybe they just stay in Ishgard for their own calling. Never venture out, illusive and we only see them if were lucky / fighting darkspawn. lol
    (Were actually like Gray Wardens to new players guys! )
    I just laughed at bit, sorry. ^^
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  6. #76
    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    LOL I know maybe it is but gives a reason as to why. I hate M.Night Shyamalan he ruined the Last air bender movie ruining the rest that would have come.
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  7. #77
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    In what way can new Jobs disrupt the main storyline? ROG/NIN certainly didn't disrupt 2.0 (the requirement was to have a level 10 Class) .-.
    Try to bring an Ishgardian to teach you something while he see in you a suspicious person who can turn into a heretic every moment.

    Rogue are Rogue, Lominsans who are living in the shadows and welcome everyone who didn't break the codex (and find their guild).
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    Last edited by Felis; 04-12-2015 at 12:04 AM.

  8. #78
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    And we somehow didn't know ROG existed until after 2.2... and newbies can play as ROG before reaching that point. Point I'm making is, gameplay should always come before plot. For people just getting into the game, it's not fair on them that something they paid for is inaccessible on release (I'm aware they wouldn't be able to play as the Jobs until they're at least level 30).
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  9. #79
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    Flo Fyloord
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    It's not like you're missing anything exciting on most of the classes from levels 1-26... After your second or even first class, the leveling process is extremely bland due to the lack of skills and rotations until around level 26 or higher (looking at you LNC and THM...).

    And its not like it denies "learning" experience either, considering I still see people in brayflox who do not grasp the concept of comboing, positional or spam windbite/blizzard.
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  10. #80
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    Delmira Garnet
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    Samurai Lv 70
    So glad it won't start at lv 1. It's incredibly boring and you learn nothing when you have like 2 skills going 1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2.... At lv 30 you should have 2 combos already where you have to learn how to optimize with rotations.
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