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    I wish they'd drop consoles entirely... In my opinion MMORPGs don't belong on consoles at all. This game is being held back graphically, and data wise as well. Why the heck do you think they can't do things like give us more housing plots yet, or increase bag storage? Texture wise the game is... Not great. I realize they didn't want to go overboard on graphics because that was a large part of what was wrong with 1.0, but I think they went back too far on it. It's like they went too far on the other spectrum.

    I realize people with consoles may get offended by this post, but consoles just aren't able to handle all that an MMORPG can do, and FFXIV is held back by it to an extant. Least we'll get the Directx 11 upgrade with the coming expansion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmeron View Post
    Why the heck do you think they can't do things like give us more housing plots yet, or increase bag storage?
    I thought they said this was server side, not a console restriction. I think they should just separate us. Let console users play with other console players and PC play with themselves
    PS4 probably outperforms more than half the PC's people are using to play this game anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    I think they should just separate us. Let console users play with other console players and PC play with themselves
    You seem to respect the PS4, but I have to call you on this line
    This would be devastating to the game. Its cross platform functionality is a part of what makes the game great. Splitting us up would completely fracture the community. Most LS's, FC's, and statics would be ripped in two.
    Additionally, how would a PS4 only static check their DPS for raiding progression? I can't imagine SE giving PC players that sort of advantage, even though it wold have no direct bearing on the PS4 servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis_Nephthys View Post
    You seem to respect the PS4, but I have to call you on this line
    I have both. Though my PC is a bit aged was top of the line gaming when I bought it and haven't done anything to it. I do play this game on the PS4. I have games for my PC that a console could probably never run. I really don't think that the PS4 is holding anything back on this game or will it in the future. What could they possibly want to add that the PS4 couldn't handle? If there is any limitation its that wire/wireless connection required to play the game.
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    The Xbox did not have a large enough Hard Drive to download and install the game and developing an external device was thought of to store additional memory, but the 360 was close to release. They decided to develop it for that instead because of its ability to store data on large flash memory/hard drive memory storage inherently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmeron View Post
    I wish they'd drop consoles entirely... In my opinion MMORPGs don't belong on consoles at all. This game is being held back graphically, and data wise as well.
    3 things;

    First, no console support would kill this game almost overnight.
    Second,with the 8GB of GDDR5 memory PS4 has, there is no argument that you can make that says PS4 holds it back data wise at all.
    Third, the GPU in the PS4 isn't exactly high end for dedicated gaming rigs, but it's better than average for consumer PCs in general.

    Not to mention, that the PS4 is basically a PC architecture optimized for gaming console use, making it more of a gaming rig 'lite' than anything else. PS4's GPU has the advantage of tighter integration with the rest of the system and a more optimized architecture for gaming instead of running Windows unlike a PC.

    If you can scale detail and resolution in a game for differing classes of gaming PC hardware, there is absolutely no reason why that cannot be done with PS4. I can think of no way that PS4 could be accused of holding back the game any more than consumer PCs and low-mid range gaming PCs can.

    Oh, and regarding Coerthas and frame rates, a lot of PC players have the same issues, the problem is that the game client either needs it's draw distance capped to prevent drops in frame rate, or it needs to stop rendering everything around the character, even though it's not currently in view. this is a problem shared by many people, not just console based players.

    Regarding housing...
    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    I thought they said this was server side, not a console restriction.
    That is in fact what they have said, it is server side, not client.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    I think they should just separate us. Let console users play with other console players and PC play with themselves
    I see what you did there....

    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    PS4 probably outperforms more than half the PC's people are using to play this game anyways.
    Segregating console and PC players would be counter productive to the game's future, not to mention that people haven't the slighted clue whether a person is playing on PS4 with a DS4, or on PC with a 3rd party controller.
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 04-11-2015 at 04:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Segregating console and PC players would be counter productive to the game's future, not to mention that people haven't the slighted clue whether a person is playing on PS4 with a DS4, or on PC with a 3rd party controller.
    That's for sure. I wouldn't want to separate them. Imagine the que times then. I just said that because its kinda sad this whole PC/console debate. Its like two old men arguing over tuna or chicken salad. They both do the same thing, for all purposes here anyways.
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    That's for sure. I wouldn't want to separate them. Imagine the que times then. I just said that because its kinda sad this whole PC/console debate. Its like two old men arguing over tuna or chicken salad. They both do the same thing, for all purposes here anyways.
    LOL agreed. Though I shall note that tuna will always smell fishy....
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