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    Ferth's Avatar
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    Ferth Fontaine
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    i tried to find the game play vid on you tube but there are to many to go through right now. the one im referring to is narrated by the producer and it shows the open world quest system that is similar to rifts rift system except after you finish the quest it has world impact and other quest open up. anyways, it shows 2 guys taking down a mob and a third guy shows up and unlocks the mobs aoe move and kills 2 of the guys.

    Now im not saying GW2 is better then FFxiv or the system should be a close of that or anything of the sort.
    Just that im open to a system like this, and for loot drops in GW2 if the first people on the scene are guaranteed 1st rate drops that would make other players not want to steel you nm, cause what would be the point.
    The point would be griefing.

    They might not get anything but they can make your fight significantly less pleasant and possibly get the mob to kill you, allowing them to steal claim.
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    Arcell's Avatar
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    Arc Jurado
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
    The point would be griefing.

    They might not get anything but they can make your fight significantly less pleasant and possibly get the mob to kill you, allowing them to steal claim.
    ^ Pretty much this. As was stated in the OP, imagine an NM has some ridiculous AoE move with a specific trigger. You're first on the scene and you get the initial claim. Someone else shows up and would rather have the loot, they then trigger this move which wipes your party and allows them to steal claim. Can you see how this would be a problem.

    As others have mentioned, putting the /blockaid command in would prevent this though pretty much everyone would use it anyway so there would be no point in allowing others to help.
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    MeowyWowie's Avatar
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    Meowy Wowie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
    The point would be griefing.

    They might not get anything but they can make your fight significantly less pleasant and possibly get the mob to kill you, allowing them to steal claim.
    Yea, this right here.

    Griefing happened in FFXI too. PLDs from other linkshells curing the main tank of the linkshell who has claim on Fafnir for instance, then cycling through all their ENM generation abilities, causing a spike flail.

    In XIV you can't do this with the current system because no one outside of the engaged party can act on the mob or the party. Once the new claim system is in place, it's back to the same problems.
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