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[Able]

I fully understand that some people enjoy it. However, I've never been able to enjoy stories like this where the player has no agency and is basically non-existent in the cutscenes. I like the idea behind the story, but I just can't get into it because of my character being limited to looking hot and nodding in the affirmative.

[Natsuno]

Im guessing you skipped the cutscenes in the dungeons/raids and watched them in the inn (lol).

Y̶o̶u̶ ̶k̶n̶o̶w̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶,̶ ̶J̶o̶n̶ ̶S̶n̶o̶w̶ Guess again. umm.. (lol)

All your companions are there, even if just as support. In several cutscenes (T9 opener stands out for this to me) they dont just stand there looking pretty, they have their own actions/reactions to what is going on.

I've not done any coil yet worth mentioning, but thanks for the heads up.

Operation Archon, Steps of Faith, Coil, Crystal Tower, HM/EX Primals, all the Hildibrand...they all specifically state to go and get companions to aid you, and in Steps/Archon/Coil its an actual plot point that you are not alone! (Greg/Ultros its more like what you think it is, but its a little different than the other trials/raids...still cannon you did not do those fights solo though)

My memory is not perfect, so if there is a little more than *scene or your current group walking in & victory fanfare* then I'm misremembering certain events. It was very late and I just misworded my previous post, I just meant to suggest the possibility. The more I think about it, the more certain instances are obvious, and adventurers are meant to be with you. I just find it a little unlikely when against primals, regardless of how it's worded in game due to tempering. But if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong.

[ColorOfSakura]

what army? did they send armies to kill the primals?

Yes. YES THEY DID.

THIS IS A FACT SUPPORTED BY THE LORE WITHIN THE GAME.

Go back and read up the part about the Company of Heroes. Or the stuff about Leviathan in 2.2!

The Grand Companies basically just threw soldiers at the Primals to kill them before the Warrior of Light came along. Wave of soldiers in, they'd be bait and get tempered or die. Next wave of soldiers in, they'd fight for a bit, same thing. Repeat until the primal was dead. It is supported by the game's own STORY as something that occurred.

[Tarta]

I was very disappointed that FFXIV took the "Main Character is a wet Noodle" route. You kill primals. You kill elder-machines that kill primals too. With only you leading them, 3-7 other adventurers can push back entire armies. You can even kill/deal with that which is unkillable (Ascian). You can raise people from the dead. You can Esuna/Leech even some of the most deadly poisons as it was nothing. You have *jobs* where you're one of the only ones left, and arguably imbalancingly powerful.
All that.
You can't esuna/leech Nanaimo being poisoned.
You you can't raise her (thinking that's because there's no blessing of light on her or whatever, but Esuna/Leech is a sure thing).
You can't fight the silly level 35 brass blades (where a simulation of 200-300 versus you would assuredly perish).
Those same brass blades, fully aware of your prowess and legendary skill, don't even hesitate fighting you. As if they are robots without fears.
You get russled up by some guy, and arguably you aren't happy about it, but you let him yuck it up.
Can't use weapons in the room? Walk out, meet them all and wipe them clean.
You can't teleport out, for whatever reason. Some bullshit aetheryte excuse? Use Marriage Ring blessed by the gods. All of them.
It's just so many plot holes and plot armor and plot strikes. It has soul but it's pretty fanfictiony.

[kehn]

Yes. YES THEY DID.

THIS IS A FACT SUPPORTED BY THE LORE WITHIN THE GAME.

Go back and read up the part about the Company of Heroes. Or the stuff about Leviathan in 2.2!

The Grand Companies basically just threw soldiers at the Primals to kill them before the Warrior of Light came along. Wave of soldiers in, they'd be bait and get tempered or die. Next wave of soldiers in, they'd fight for a bit, same thing. Repeat until the primal was dead. It is supported by the game's own STORY as something that occurred.

hmmm that was my point... O_o armies don't mean anything.

[kehn]

bla bla bla ego bla bla bla pedestal bla bla bla assumptions bla bla bla

what are you arguing for? did you read anything i said? you are arguing that i'm going to school for game design? and? because your comment doesn't say anything about my argument... are you saying the reason our characters don't do anything in ANY cut scene in the game is not because we have different jobs and it would be a nightmare to create cut scenes for all possible outcomes? come back with a real argument.

[Deli]

So... Discuss... But don't make any arguments you don't like?

Edit:
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who actually liked the way my character acted in 2.55. It's exactly how 'my' character should have acted in that situation.

Many times i read 'it break immersion' thread, it always made me think, why it never break mine. It's probably due to i don't insist things go with the way i want them to be. background, character setup, scene setup... it's the developerss creation, not much to argu about just like why A is B's father. C should be B's father these...

I like how my char did cus this is the plot author created.
Besides... killing and violence should only be use to extremely bad guys, not the ppl who just follow the orders. So, i'm proud of my Roe didn't hurt guards.

Water is half full or water is half empty. It's all depend on how you view the same thing.

AND big cutie is super cutie! /hug

[Seiryuukishi]

Ultimately the deed is done. It sucks to have to stand by and take the flak (if you desire not to of course) or if the plot had been reversed and we had fought those that wanted a passive end would've been upset. As many have stated options are what are needed. Whether or not they lead to the same conclusion is moot. I would have preferred to have been cut loose, taken a weapon by some means (preferably violent), and proceeded to bring the roof down on their heads. Political consequences? Please, spare me because the Monetarists don't seem to give a fornication about "political consequences". They had Nanamo killed, you framed in front of two other national leaders and a representative, and the only thing it got them was Teledji dead and Lolorito a whole lot of headaches to deal with. They have effectively alienated the Immortal Flames which constituted the bulk of Ul'dahian defenses. The trouble with paying money for mercenaries like the Brass Blades and the so called Crystal Braves is when you really need them they won't be there. At this point, amid the chaos, the Maelstrom or the Yellow Serpents could most likely take over Ul'dah, never mind the Garlean Empire. No, the worst of the political implications came when we didn't do anything. Now one of the last City States has essentially made itself vulnerable to invasion. That is the price paid for greed and utter stupidity.

[kehn]

^ my friend you bring forth beautiful points.

[Seiryuukishi]

^ my friend you bring forth beautiful points.

I try to look at everything from every standpoint I can. To me, personally, this seemed the only viable outcome of the current state of affairs. While I am sure not all of the Monetarists are evil or brain dead (Godbert) the fact remains that there is now a huge hole in the kingdom's defenses. Raubahn is wounded and in prison awaiting whatever fate they have planned. One of two senarios can occur with the Immortal Flames: first, Pipin can take command and lead them as best he can given morale is most likely at a rock bottom low due to uncertainty. Or secondly, they try to force them into service via Ilberd or your choice mainiac and the vast majority defect or go AWOL. Both essentially leave Ul'dah with crap for an army. Thank you for the compliment btw.