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    Krr's Avatar
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    Murah Jhida
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    hate these jrpgs, no real role-playing, they should be more like my wrpgs full of meaningful choice, like my character should be able to pick a red dialogue option where they get mad or a blue dialogue option where they get nice and it influences the next single line of dialog, important for role-play
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    video games are bad

  2. #42
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    Shuu Naranol
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    I agree, the passiveness and silence of our own character really shines through in 2.55. With a very bad light, I mean. I really hope this will change in Heavensward, at least a little, because really, for a roleplaying, especially for Final Fantasy, that is so heavily reliant on story and characters, it's just... god-awful. :/
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  3. #43
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    Ganth Fyrion
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    In this thread, OP doesn't want discussion if it doesn't coincide with their opinion.

    Fighting back would have made things immensely worse for the Warrior of Light. The Warrior of Light would have most likely lost those who do believe in your character's innocence (for example: Momodi). Merlwyb and Kan-E-Senna making a quick "Exit Stage Left" makes sense for them, too, though it was apparent that Merlwyb wanted to stay behind. If both, or either, of them had, it would have been bad for both nations politically and economically.

    I'm fine with how that went. It may not have been how I would have responded in the smaller details (I would have been kneeling at Nanamo's side). I also may have had a little more sass. I do wish that I could have Gibb-slapped Einstinein for his presumption. I have beat your ass once before, elf, I can EASILY do it again. I'm not wearing my old Drachen Mail, after all.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  4. #44
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Ironically there are other jrpgs with silent protagonists (chrono, suikoden series), but at least they're given some dialogue options despite it not affecting the story whatsoever.

    The GLD quests is probably the best use of dialogue options.

    We're not asking for bioware/telltale levels of dialogue options. Just at least more opportunities to say something
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  5. #45
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Even if they all lead to the same thing? We'd get even more people complaining that the dialogue options don't mean anything. The JRPGs that have silent protagonists with response choices all do this and usually have no impact, whether by story or character relationship/developments.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistoltin View Post
    Rage.
    Quote Originally Posted by kehn View Post
    Tears.
    I'm going to be that guy today and say: "Oh well! Go make your OWN MMO" or hell! Go RP in the game with some friends and totally act out what could of been different...write a Light Novel about it too if you'd want. We've given you multiple reasons why retaliating would be bad but you're totally overlooking it for God knows what reasons and again, becoming edgy. Your rage is fun so keep on going about something you can't change. xD
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    Last edited by Mikhaill; 04-06-2015 at 06:18 AM.

  7. #47
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    Robas Kebas
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    Even if the story still comes out the same people won't mind. For example, Persona there is a silent protagonist but you make choices for him in the story. NPCs will react to those choices but in the end it will generally lead to the same scenario in the main story. People like choices even if the outcome it still the same, it gives the them feel as if they are the character they made. Numerous games have choices which doesn't change the main story drastically but people still like them anyway.The development team can't read people's mind that is correct but they don't have to.They just need to think in the position of the player and wonder what type of choices they want in that situation. If people pick the decision of not running but fighting instead but leads to being overwhelmed in the process the cutscene after will be the running away scene. I can bet people would be fine with this, SE gave them the choice and they saw a small consequence for staying to fight. The main story still led to the same point but it put a form of choice for yourself to portray what you would do.

    That's just my opinion anyway, if you want to flame my post go ahead lol
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  8. #48
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    Kehn Son'kur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    brilliant argument
    So what? i am supposed to take your word for it? "retaliating would be bad because reasons" and that's it? you have been given counter arguments. your "Reasons" as with the devs are grounded in lack of imagination. I'll still give you a slow clap for your "make your own MMO" line... #goodjob
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    Quote Originally Posted by kehn View Post
    So what? i am supposed to take your word for it? "retaliating would be bad because reasons" and that's it? you have been given counter arguments. your "Reasons" as with the devs are grounded in lack of imagination. I'll still give you a slow clap for your "make your own MMO" line... #goodjob
    So what? i am supposed to take your word for it? "retaliating would be good because reasons" and that's it? you have been given counter arguments. your "Reasons" as with the devs are grounded in lack of imagination. I'll still give you a slow clap for your "wanting and intelligent discussion" line... #goodjob
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLeonheart View Post
    So what? i am supposed to take your word for it? "retaliating would be good because reasons" and that's it? you have been given counter arguments. your "Reasons" as with the devs are grounded in lack of imagination. I'll still give you a slow clap for your "wanting and intelligent discussion" line... #goodjob
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