Healer Buffs

[Selli]

I guess I brought it on myself for not calculating the exact time lol.

No, no. Don't worry about it. There's really no need for you to be so exact. 30 seconds is a reasonable number to round it to, I probably would have said 30 seconds myself. It's probably about 30 seconds in a trial with two SCH's anyway, I know casting Stoneskin on 8 people is about 22 seconds (because T9 was hell back in the day).

Though the amount of buff time between a WHM and a SCH is crazy, now that WHM's have Stoneskin II it takes them about 10 seconds to buff everyone while SCH is double that.

[Lemuria]

Bad tanks will always be a problem. It's their job to check the levels of their team and pull an appropriate number of mobs. It also helps to wait a couple of seconds to get a buff, as the less the healer needs to cure you, the easier it will be for all of you.

No, having good gear doesn't excuse you from doing your jobs properly. If you've reached a level where you can fight off hordes with ease, then you've reached a level where you understand your role in the party. Play your role first and foremost, anything else is merely a bonus.

Though the amount of buff time between a WHM and a SCH is crazy, now that WHM's have Stoneskin II it takes them about 10 seconds to buff everyone while SCH is double that.

Less than 5 if you use Swiftcast on Stoneskin 2.

[Sartori]

Am I the only one who has noticed an increase of people who are not willing to wait an extra 30 seconds for buffs at the beginning of dungeon runs?

You guys do realize that as a healer if I can buff the party with Protect, Stoneskin, Adloquium(for tanks) and Succor (everyone else) prior to a pull that this allows me to start off in Cleric Stance, throw up DoTs and DPS before I even have to start thinking about healing?

A lot of the replies I've been getting from people lately is "I'm in a rush" or "just do it while I pull".

For the people who don't want to wait that thirty seconds for pre-pull buffs, why? I'm genuinely curious at this point.

That and the inability to use raise, I shouldn't have to shout in chat over and over to ask for a raise should I??

[YukariOro]

That and the inability to use raise, I shouldn't have to shout in chat over and over to ask for a raise should I??

My priority as healer is to

1) keep the tank alive
2) raise the tank if they do for some reason die
3) make sure those still up and fighting aren't also going to die, so heal them and myself til we're out of the danger zone
4) then I will raise whatever dps is dead

Shouting for a raise, especially if my swiftcast is down, isn't going to get you raised any faster if the timing isn't safe to raise you.

[Selli]

Less than 5 if you use Swiftcast on Stoneskin 2.

True that. But I was talking about fully casting it (since sometimes you actually have to, unfortunately). Stoneskin II is a godsend, if they ever remove it I may cry.

[dayspring83]

Bad tanks will always be a problem. It's their job to check the levels of their team and pull an appropriate number of mobs. It also helps to wait a couple of seconds to get a buff, as the less the healer needs to cure you, the easier it will be for all of you.

No, having good gear doesn't excuse you from doing your jobs properly. If you've reached a level where you can fight off hordes with ease, then you've reached a level where you understand your role in the party. Play your role first and foremost, anything else is merely a bonus.Less than 5 if you use Swiftcast on Stoneskin 2.

I wouldn't tag them as "bads" though...annoyingly impatient, maybe. But I'm sure people have tags for me when Im chasing them down using "angry" emotes while trying to cast Adlo lol

[YukariOro]

No, having good gear doesn't excuse you from doing your jobs properly.

I main tanked in WoW on paladin, and was able to tank some dungeon fights that other tanks, in better gear, would wipe on. Good or great gear doesn't always mean someone knows their class well sadly. Had one friend that also did pally tank in WoW, come to find out when he asked me for tips, that he didn't use 99% of his Holy spells because he thought they were worthless, so he couldn't keep aggro as a result. He was always better geared on his tank than I was on my tank, but he really didn't know how to play tank unfortunately, and some people are just like that.

[NinjaTaru72]

I must have it lucky, half the time my tank waits patiently for buffs. The other half, I buff him, then toss aldo, then e4e and.... Thats when He sits there for whatever reason and my e4e just ticks down... Lol.

Now when it comes to my tank. I swear healers I get have no idea what they are doing.(maybe because I main healer I have higher expectations) My tank is only 35. And they'll sit at the start of a dungeon and me and the dps stand there like . .. Umm can we have buffs? For almost a minute befor the healers like "oh crap sorry forgot." which I don't say anything bad. I just worry. Lol.

[dayspring83]

That and the inability to use raise, I shouldn't have to shout in chat over and over to ask for a raise should I??

9/10 times we see that you're down but we're making a decision to continue healing the tanks or other DPS who are near death to prevent a wipe. If I have swiftcast up, then the decision to raise you is easy but if not then I need to find a safe time/place to do it. Which leads me to...

The other 1/10...you have been repeatedly eating AOEs and I've already raised you twice...you need a timeout. =)

Different topic post for a later time though..but seriously healers need to prioritize raises with keeping the rest of the group alive. So, I wouldnt take it personally or think that the healer is ignoring you. Unless they are sitting idle between Cures, then see the 1/10 =)

[dayspring83]

I must have it lucky, half the time my tank waits patiently for buffs. The other half, I buff him, then toss aldo, then e4e and.... Thats when He sits there for whatever reason and my e4e just ticks down... Lol.

Now when it comes to my tank. I swear healers I get have no idea what they are doing.(maybe because I main healer I have higher expectations) My tank is only 35. And they'll sit at the start of a dungeon and me and the dps stand there like . .. Umm can we have buffs? For almost a minute befor the healers like "oh crap sorry forgot." which I don't say anything bad. I just worry. Lol.

Lol I dont understand how they forget to buff.

I start SS as soon as I see "viewing cutscene" go away. It's like a reflex at this point. Next time tell them to put the joint down in between runs haha