Healer Buffs

[dayspring83]

Am I the only one who has noticed an increase of people who are not willing to wait an extra 30 seconds for buffs at the beginning of dungeon runs?

You guys do realize that as a healer if I can buff the party with Protect, Stoneskin, Adloquium(for tanks) and Succor (everyone else) prior to a pull that this allows me to start off in Cleric Stance, throw up DoTs and DPS before I even have to start thinking about healing?

A lot of the replies I've been getting from people lately is "I'm in a rush" or "just do it while I pull".

For the people who don't want to wait that thirty seconds for pre-pull buffs, why? I'm genuinely curious at this point.

[ElHeggunte]

Short answer: people are stupid.
Long answer: people are selfish and stupid.

[AdamFyi]

Impatience.

[AyaneSL]

In 4ppl contents such as ex roulette, I'll try to stoneskin everyone (mostly the tank) right before the last mob is killed, which means a pre-cast at about 5-10%.
In primal fights ppl pay much more attention to this so it's ok for me... but in raids it's just impossible to prevent because there's always someone in other alliance ninja-pulling. As WHM a Stoneskin2 will actually cast on everyone who haven't been involved into fight (especially if you were already casting when it's pulled, in most cases it's just the tank who didn't get it) but if this is happening too often, I'd consider Swiftcast+Stoneskin2 before it's too late, tho in some battles it's a waste of cooldown (e.g. 1st boss in WoD or 1st trash mobs in CT, some ppl just die at the very beginning).

[Fynlar]

If you're taking 30 seconds to pre-buff I wouldn't want to wait for it either.

But yeah, if they're literally just zooming off before even Protect lands on them, they can just go without it for all I care.

[dayspring83]

If you're taking 30 seconds to pre-buff I wouldn't want to wait for it either.

But yeah, if they're literally just zooming off before even Protect lands on them, they can just go without it for all I care.

Haha, yeah that's my fault. I just generalize everything that I consider to be quick as "30 seconds". In reality I start casting Stoneskin as I see the "viewing custscene" go away and then once I have everyone lithified I go hit with Protect, Adlo and Succor depending on the pull or area. So however long that takes.

I dont run on WHM often, but then it's just Quickcast > SS2 and then Protect.

[Brightshadow]

I just let them die and laugh.

[Mugiawara]

For the people who don't want to wait that thirty seconds for pre-pull buffs, why? I'm genuinely curious at this point.

I am not a speedrusher but if you're taking 30 seconds, that is some time there lol.
Personally, I quickly SC use protect after the Duty Commence thing pops up, put SS on tank, succor everyone and that's it.
It takes less than 15 seconds. Still wish they gave us AoE SS on SCH. :/
Doesn't matter, if I get a tank like this, I'ma just watch him go to town on mobs and he gets killed, leaves and be's
a big crybaby but I will still try to heal and cast protect and whatever I need to do so I don't stoop down his level too and get us all killed so eh...
I never had an impatient tank like this though that didn't want buffs.

[ShorreasAeatose]

I still don't understand how impatience or "wow speed rush time" mentality makes people do this. Protect takes, what, 2.5 seconds to cast? I've had runs where literally the only reason we wiped was because the tank didn't have protect, and that +15% armor would've made all the difference in whether that cure II or adloquium finished casting before he died. A wipe costs more time than the 2.5 seconds it takes to cast protect. Even without an actual wipe happening, having protect up will SAVE more than 2.5 seconds due to less healing that the healer needs to do, which can possibly become more cleric stance time.

[TruebladeNuke]

I've rarely had runs in which the Tank would instantly take off on me before I even start casting buffs, but I've had those moments too. I mean seriously, it doesn't even take very long to cast Protect:

I still don't understand how impatience or "wow speed rush time" mentality makes people do this. Protect takes, what, 2.5 seconds to cast? I've had runs where literally the only reason we wiped was because the tank didn't have protect, and that +15% armor would've made all the difference in whether that cure II or adloquium finished casting before he died. A wipe costs more time than the 2.5 seconds it takes to cast protect. Even without an actual wipe happening, having protect up will SAVE more than 2.5 seconds due to less healing that the healer needs to do, which can possibly become more cleric stance time.

^ Ding ding ding ding.

In the rare instances of which I DO get a Tank that takes off like all of time itself is against him, I'll try to remedy the situation by blowing Swiftcast on Protect instead, but that means no Swiftcast of Stoneskin II for the team during the first pull, as that's where the real amount of regular cast time is. But hey, at least Protect is better than no defense buff at all. (And Protect doesn't blow up in a few seconds from enemy attacks either)

I don't mind speed rushes, but even speed rushes requires a functioning brain. At LEAST accept the damn Protect first before taking off.