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  1. #201
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    /signed

    best post on this subject i've seen yet
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  2. #202
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    Yoongi Mio
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felghanna View Post
    First: Do you realize how many players are online on your server right now? (a hint: it's more than your friend list can tell)
    And that matters how? They could all sign this petition and SE still wouldn't stop everything that they are doing and implement the measures to prevent most RMT spam.
    Companies have to want to stop them and implement measures to filter out the RMT. SE hasn't displayed the want to change anything at the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felghanna View Post
    Second: Did you played every MMO to say this information is accurate?
    I've played a lot of MMOs and I've read the replies of others in other numerous RMT threads that call out other games with RMT problems. RMT and MMOs go hand in hand. They will forever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felghanna View Post
    Third: Let's say for a moment that most of players from every server signs a petition against RMT sites. Do you think no one will notice about it?
    First off, I'm not saying that the /tell filters and reporting aren't good ideas. But I am saying that there can be a huge petition against an RMT site and the NA side of SE will notice it but that it will amount to nothing. You are saying RMT sites. SE cannot attack an RMT site.
    Let's say that again...
    You're talking about RMT sites and SE cannot do anything about those. They only hold dominion over their own.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felghanna View Post
    Fourth: Return to the first thing I said. I know, you are saying your prayers for a god that doesn't listen for one year. We all want the same thing, why don't we just fight for it?
    The first thing you said has nothing to do with this fourth thing you're saying.

    And yea, people do want the same thing in this thread. However, signing a petition and hoping that the NA support gives it to the JP side and that fixes everything isn't going to work. Suggestions are what makes it happen, giving them the ideas needed make it happen. You are literally just asking people to sign nothing and throw that at SE like somehow it will be surprising.

    Fact: SE knows about how the NA have issues with RMT. They know. They'll do things in their own time frame.
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  3. #203
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    So basically you are thinking that the petition is for Square Enix close a RMT website? So you're missing the point here.
    And then you say that you didn't play EVERY MMO, but all those you played have RMT, informative.
    Since the beginning you wasn't agreeing with anyone, now you want to take back what you said in the beginning to have an argument? Please, don't bother.

    This thread was made to say that every act from Square Enix doesn't have any effect against the RMT, if you want to wait for their solution, go ahead, isn't necessary to repeat.

    Either way the ideals that lies here will need a lot of signs.

    /sign
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    Last edited by Felghanna; 04-04-2015 at 11:46 AM.
    "The world is very different for those who cannot see beyond what is placed before their very eyes."

  4. #204
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    I use busy mode all the time. It blocks all tells and friend invites. Downside is it blocks party invites and trades, so if a legitimate request is made i have to take it off.

    That's for the symptoms, now for the cause... It is common knowledge RMT use a credit card multiple times and then declare it stolen to waive the fees. As i suggested before, suspending a gold seller is good, but suspending his credit card's accounts is better. I don't know if they make multiple accounts up front, but even if they did, removing one gold seller and then all the accounts on the same credit card would slow them down a lot.
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    When life gives you lemons, cry yourself to sleep, and tell all your friends.

  5. #205
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio View Post
    Fact: SE knows about how the NA have issues with RMT. They know. They'll do things in their own time frame.
    I sincerely hope that it happens before Heavensward or they will cripple their own sales for no reason.
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  6. #206
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    This thread is pointless... There is only one solution to eliminating RMT... QUIT BUYING GIL. That being said I have not received a RMT tell since January and I stay logged in for days then again that's when I moved to Fenrir. If it's one thing you should take from XI's anti-RMT tactics it's that anything they do will be a negative for the general public and easily circumvented by RMT...
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  7. #207
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treymok View Post
    This thread is pointless... There is only one solution to eliminating RMT... QUIT BUYING GIL. That being said I have not received a RMT tell since January and I stay logged in for days then again that's when I moved to Fenrir. If it's one thing you should take from XI's anti-RMT tactics it's that anything they do will be a negative for the general public and easily circumvented by RMT...
    I would argue that you saying to people not to buy gil is even more pointless. People will in most cases take the easiest route when it is available to them, regardless of if it is ethical or not. The best way to stop the gilbuying is to make examples out of people, by banning them permanently. This takes out customers from the potential pool of gilbuyers, as well as making other customers think twice about buying gil. This, yet again, falls on SE.
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    Last edited by Zabuza; 04-04-2015 at 02:20 PM.

  8. #208
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    I would argue that you saying to people not to buy gil is even more pointless. People will in most cases take the easiest route when it is available to them, regardless of it is ethical or not. The best way to stop the gilbuying is to make examples out of people, by banning them permanently. This takes out customers from the potential pool of gilbuyers, as well as making other customers think twice about buying gil. This, yet again, falls on SE.
    They already ban people for buying and selling gil. A RMT spam account is new and has no gil to sell or any ties to the actual gil accounts so what do you propose they do to combat this that doesn't adversely affect regular players?
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  9. #209
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treymok View Post
    They already ban people for buying and selling gil. A RMT spam account is new and has no gil to sell or any ties to the actual gil accounts so what do you propose they do to combat this that doesn't adversely affect regular players?
    It's been said. Improving the features and quality of life is key. Adding a right click report function, increasing blacklist capacity, adding custom chat filters. Heck, maybe they can even hire a 4th person to that special task force of theirs!
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  10. #210
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treymok View Post
    This thread is pointless... There is only one solution to eliminating RMT... QUIT BUYING GIL. That being said I have not received a RMT tell since January and I stay logged in for days then again that's when I moved to Fenrir. If it's one thing you should take from XI's anti-RMT tactics it's that anything they do will be a negative for the general public and easily circumvented by RMT...
    There's nothing pointless about letting SE know that we want a reduced presence of RMT and other qol adjustments to make them less of a distraction. Things like a simple chat filter, oneclick no friend request, or Right Click > Report would be so easy to put in the game.

    What's pointless is stating the one solution which can never be achieved.
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