Our passive characters and why the 2.55 story fails (BIG SPOILERS) (rant warning)

[Kallera]

My assumption that that part was that Alphnaud managed to acquire it on his escape route. Honestly, it's just a pointless plot hole people will use to give agency for their distaste of the story. They don't like feeling defeated.

They don't like being defeated with a cutscene. in addition the whole thing vanishes in a puff of smoke after.

[Intaki]

Hi All,

Here's one thing I miss from the 1.0 Dev Team's work (and Story / Cinematics Team).

Look at the climactic battle (before the whole 2.0 / Dalamud / Bahamut ending was created) for 1.0's Main Story.

Look at HOW ACTIVE AND AWESOME the fighting and challenge was.

They can fight and kick so much butt, but suddenly, NONE of THEM can do anything against regular Uldahn Soldiers?! So awful.

Shame on you Yoshi P and the Cinematics Team. Seriously.

https://youtu.be/iT-52Ia1-3M?list=PL...B9RF0Rj9&t=430

Thanks.

They were beating those soldiers by the boatload. But no matter how strong you are, or powerful you are, nothing will save you from an insurmountable numeric disadvantage.

[AdamFyi]

They just did a bad job covering it up.

Explain. If the plan was to accuse you of treason, then obviously the priority for them was to strip you of your weapons to prevent resistance. Hence the reason why you were caught with your pants down.

[Deithwen]

Snip.

Totally approve this, although the rythme was much better, animations too. These cutscenes we had for 2.55 where so badly done on a technical point of view I almost fell asleep...
Thing is, everything was slow and badly done this time. I felt like watching a movie in slow motion. Like :
character 1 speaks... pause .... character 2 speaks... pause ... and so on, with the custscene ending with fading black. All of the cutscenes were like that.
I know this is a mmo which is doing far better than others but even older RPGs were better at that.

And now if you consider the lack of coherence of this whole plot, such as stupid choices made over and over (people not even trying to fight and just want the Wol to escape and dying in a suicidal way or Alphinaud becoming suddenly as stupid as a 5 years old child whereas he is supposed to be really smart)...

Yep, I guess my point is clear : disapointement on every part of it, although I could have passed on the story itself, but it was really a pain to watch on a technical point of view. And with 3.0 coming in June I wish they took more time to give us something decent at the very least.

[Hyrist]

They don't like being defeated with a cutscene. in addition the whole thing vanishes in a puff of smoke after.

Semantics, and unnecessary ones at all.

If you want to say "I want a fight scene/battle I can't win." It's going to still be the exact same issue. "Why can't I beat these Brass Blades I was able to handle so easily during my level 15 Uldahn quest!?"

Don't interject without context, thank you. It's that simple, or you'll look a fool.

Context is there, plain to see. You're taking agency for a character you don't own, arguing that someone else's speculation is less valid than yours, when in fact you both stand on equal ground argumentatively.

If you don't like having interjections on a conversation, you should attempt to contact the individual privately. Else-wise, this is a public debate.

[Moqi]

Explain. If the plan was to accuse you of treason, then obviously the priority for them was to strip you of your weapons to prevent resistance. Hence the reason why you were caught with your pants down.

It's already been explained a lot more eloquently than I could by another user. The Sultana had no reason not to agree to meet you armed, she trusted you.

[Fyce]

It's already been explained a lot more eloquently than I could by another user. The Sultana had no reason not to agree to meet you armed, she trusted you.

And then, Teledji, the guards and Ildberd would have taken your weapon away during your arrest.

Good job, you are now weaponless anyway.

I'll say it again: having a weapon or not during the meeting with the Sultana changes absolutly nothing.

[Moqi]

Context is there, plain to see.

Understand it then, and post after.

[Gemma]

All I can say to the people who are crying about why their WoL didn't attack and fight is, your character must be a monster then...

Saskia knew what was happening, she was being framed. How fighting her way through guards (that most of them are more then likely just regular guards trying to do their job) & KILLING them would help prove her innocence I don't see. It made complete sense to me why she would run & not fight.

There is a bigger purpose for her, & she would be no help to anyone (scions included) if she died. Everyone keeps thinking the WoL is Godlike, they're not. Everything we do in game whether its coil, primals, Ultima, Defending Ishgard, you are not doing it by yourself. You have team mates, cannons, the blessing of light. You have TONS of help, in that situation you are caught off guard with no way to get out of it except by running and trying to find a way to clear your name.

Why that seems unfathomable is beyond me...

[Felis]

Hi All,

Here's one thing I miss from the 1.0 Dev Team's work (and Story / Cinematics Team).

Look at the climactic battle (before the whole 2.0 / Dalamud / Bahamut ending was created) for 1.0's Main Story.

Look at HOW ACTIVE AND AWESOME the fighting and challenge was.

They can fight and kick so much butt, but suddenly, NONE of THEM can do anything against regular Uldahn Soldiers?! So awful.

Shame on you Yoshi P and the Cinematics Team. Seriously.

https://youtu.be/iT-52Ia1-3M?list=PL...B9RF0Rj9&t=430

Thanks.

The character still just stand around and do nothing (the main complain in this thread, how I see it), while the companion got first shooted.

Also the last 1.0 mainstory quest never feeled like the end of a story, more like the end of a prologue. Maybe there was more story planned before Tanaka got replaced, but the end was too sudden.