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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    It's entirely possible to run into someone who speaks Japanese exactly like Nanamo in the real world, but night impossible to meet someone who speaks English like her.
    Yes, I kind of shortened the explanation there.
    My original post had royal for ''wareware'' and noble for ''watakushi'' (so you could understand better what meaning I ment with noble: well-bred)
    That's my point, in the english you would have to give a similar kind of vibe to the dialogue to give it the same implication.

    I didnt want to make it too long as it seemed off-topic
    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    That. . .rather clearly illustrates his point, no? Her dialect gave away her origin without changing any meaning.
    The opposite I would think? Because her origin is kind of important to the meaning of the dialogue and plot.
    He is correct about it pointing to origin. But incorrect in that it does in fact change meaning.


    There are many ways to say the same thing.<-
    Heh. There are many ways to say the same thing. <-
    Heh. Whatever you might think, things can be said in one way or another and still mean the same thing. <-
    But depending on how you phrase it, and how much fluff you add; they can mean (be interpreted) in entirely different ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    The opposite I would think? Because her origin is kind of important to the meaning of the dialogue and plot.
    He is correct about it pointing to origin. But incorrect in that it does in fact change meaning.
    Hello. Hi. 'Ello. Hey. Heya.

    Notice how the meaning hasn't changed at all, only the origin? And to use your examples, the meaning didn't change until you added a whole additional clause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Hello. Hi. 'Ello. Hey. Heya.

    Notice how the meaning hasn't changed at all, only the origin? And to use your examples, the meaning didn't change until you added a whole additional clause.
    Of course the meaning's changed. Just not the primary meaning. A different sort of person says "Hello" than says "Heya". The meaning you convey says something about you, and that changes when you change which word you pick.
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