Translation Team: Please stop doing this...

[Conradus]

At the cost of enjoying the games dialogue and plot?

You can enjoy the game's dialogue and plot and expand your vocabulary. And your expanded vocabulary increases your ability enjoy other dialogue and plot in future. That's how knowledge works.

[Canadane]

Exactly! This isn't a Japanese script that's translated and localized into other languages. It's a cumulative effort of all the languages' teams.

[Krr]

Exactly! This isn't a Japanese script that's translated and localized into other languages. It's a cumulative effort of all the languages' teams.

Can you please stop spreading this misinformation? There is an original Japanese script. Koji Fox & other localizers only give advice. There is no magical Writing Collaboration Fairy who compiles everyone's ideas and puts them into 4 languages simultaneously.

Anyroad (see what I did there?), while we're all jerking about our English majors and vocabulary width I should note that you academic geniuses have apparently forgotten the rule of writing we all learned in our honors classes: excessively using large, complex, or obscure words or phrases, while popular and fun in academia circlejerk, is bad writing if those words and phrases are not absolutely necessary or add some value to your work.

Is goofy garbled ye late english used on every character providing any value to the work? I'd say no, because it's not adding any 'character' to anyone if everyone uses it all of the freaking time. Used sparingly, it would be a good way to highlight nationalities or even class differences between characters, and it even actively detracts from characterization if some idiot farmer in Limsa is using the same dialect as the stiff knights in Coerthas or the stuffy Ul'dahn paladins who's jobs mostly involve "standing" and also "standing".

[Gilthas]

Can you please stop spreading this misinformation? There is an original Japanese script. Koji Fox & other localizers only give advice.

Just because you downplay it to mere advice doesn't mean that it doesn't affect the JP script.

[kyuven]

Just because you downplay it to mere advice doesn't mean that it doesn't affect the JP script.

The differences are pretty staggering for it to be more than "advice," though. The Localization team clearly has a lot of autonomy.

[Krr]

Just because you downplay it to mere advice doesn't mean that it doesn't affect the JP script.

Advice does not a collaborative writing effort with "no original script" make. It is misinformation to claim that there is no "master script" of the game's original language. There is one, and sometimes foreign opinions on the flow of the story are allowed to influence it.

[Gilthas]

Advice does not a collaborative writing effort with "no original script" make. It is misinformation to claim that there is no "master script" of the game's original language. There is one, and sometimes foreign opinions on the flow of the story are allowed to influence it.

Of course someone has to write the original script.

But if they're giving advice that affects the JP script that actually makes it into the game, yeah, that's a collaborative effort.

[Viridiana]

Advice does not a collaborative writing effort with "no original script" make. It is misinformation to claim that there is no "master script" of the game's original language. There is one, and sometimes foreign opinions on the flow of the story are allowed to influence it.

Except that all four languages are released simultaneously. In that respect, the English is just as original as the Japanese. As are the French and German.

[DrOstler]

If you was asking to permanently shut Urianger up I would definitely have to agree. But nobody else bothers me

[OMEGA_HACK]

Personally, I like the different dialects that are spoken, Ancient beings like the Ascians and Primals are bound to have a different dialect, because they primarily speak within their own cliques or with no one at all, so their dialect would not change. If you cannot read old English then I recommend reading some Shakespeare, because the Old English being used in this game is minimal at best and really shouldn't be hard to read assuming you paid attention in public education.


I mean we have Ramuh saying "Knowing that thy mere presence here portendeth tragedy, wilt thou persist in this pretense of peacemaking?"

While we have Shakespeare saying "And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in our philosophy. But come here as before, never, so help you mercy how strange or odd soe'er I bear myself--As I perchance hereafter shall think meet to put an antic disposition on--That you at such time seeing me never shall with arms encumbered thus, or this headshake, or by pronouncing of some doubtful phrase as 'Well, we know' or "We could an if we would' or 'If we list to speak' or 'There be, an if they might' or such ambiguous giving out, to note that you know aught or mee--this do not do so grace and mercy at your most need help you, swear."

I believe Ramuh (and the rest of the Old English speaking cast of FFXIV) is quite easy to understand...