Our passive characters and why the 2.55 story fails (BIG SPOILERS) (rant warning)

[AdamFyi]

- My complaint with the poisoning is exactly that it's too obvious to us. There's such a thing as subtlety in storytelling.

Yeah, you know the poison is there, but the characters do not. It creates suspense. You know there is poison, but you're helplessly sitting down there yelling at Nanamo to not drink it. You'd need to break the fourth wall to even have a chance of stopping her from drinking.

- Teledi is an obvious fraud, he's been painted as an obvious fraud for several patches now. If he's reached the point he's openly arresting you there really is no way things could get worse and again I remind you Thancred in the exact same situation chooses to resist.

At the time you were with Nanamo, I don't think you had a weapon with you. Correct me if I'm wrong. I just don't remember seeing a weapon.

- Alphinaud is fully aware of Teledi's bribery several cutscenes prior, and was informed of Wilred's death. He has few excuses really.

He was suspicious, yes. But I do not recall Alphinaud being privy to the information given to you at the Rising Stones. Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

- Ilberd was it? Ilberd just admitted to regicide, and don't tell me they couldn't hear him when everyone else was deathly quiet. Keep in mind all of the Scions had just been accused of treason so who cares about the rules especially since once again Thancred did not.

Notice how everyone left the room - including the Admiral and the Seedseer. Thancred did have a weapon with him which allowed him to retaliate. I don't know if anyone else had any other weapon since it was stated that it was forbidden to draw your weapons in that room.

- Easy prey with Ilberd dead and the ringleaders taken care of? I think not. Plus with Raubahn with them they'd have more of a chance.

Not necessarily. Again, reinforcements were pretty close after you ran out of the banquet hall. Ilberd could have stalled for more time and you would eventually be outnumbered.

- Okay since we're talking politics, who has more of a reason to cooperate with Ul'dah? Gridania or Limsa, which have already declared they'd put their own interests first, or Ishgard, which now has a vested interest in gaining the support of the Alliance before it falls to a Horde invasion? Yeah. Oops.

I don't think you understand. Finding out another city-state is protecting a fugitive that you would be after would cause huge political problems and conflict between city-states. You'd end up with an all-out war against each other. To add, Ishgard was still in the process of joining the Alliance. They are not members just yet, if I remember correctly.

Anyway, those are my thoughts on the matter. I guess the only thing that irked me was..

During the escape. We can see that Papalymo blasts the gate shut, but why not do it from the other side? I think it was unnecessary for them to even try to stall for time. The gates should have been enough at the least. :U

[KerenRhys]

He was suspicious, yes. But I do not recall Alphinaud being privy to the information given to you at the Rising Stones. Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

In the case Alphinaud doesn't know (as I'm not sure he was informed), then it's Riol that's totally stupid. The guy discover a potential massive bribery case in the company, in favor of one of the foremost identified enemy at that time, and with clues that they have begun to act (Wilred's death), and he doesn't even warn to his boss that there is a potential for treason? There is no need for clues to warn of a maybe that could be disastrous (even if it results only in a close watch of suspects). Yeah, right...

I don't know if anyone else had any other weapon since it was stated that it was forbidden to draw your weapons in that room.

They had them for the fight outside of the room, and there is no way they were left somewhere outside when there wasn't anybody left there. So they had it in the room and could have fight (or it's another inconsistency, there are so much it would not be surprising).

Not necessarily. Again, reinforcements were pretty close after you ran out of the banquet hall. Ilberd could have stalled for more time and you would eventually be outnumbered.

Ilberd stalling against the WoL, Raubhan, Y'shtola, Papalymo and Yda, each of which is an accomplished warrior or mage? Yeah, sure, maybe 30 seconds.

And what of the Sultansworn? Nowhere near the reception room, nowhere in sight during Teledji storming in the Sultana's room, no reaction towards the intrusion of a known enemy of the crown with an armed force of Brass Blades (known for their corruption) and a group of Crystal Brave he should not have any authority on? If they ware all killed during the coup, maybe, but they are all there after... and it's only one more inconsistency. I have seen fan fiction better written than that.

[Atreides]

Some people wrote we should not be allowed to enter Uldah anymore,which is true! Do not make a story how you escape there and hide and then suddenly can go there whenever you want

They are actually scared of you, while you were attending to the whole event your character was without weapon so they could seize you without much of a fight.
Now that you're back and fully geared at that they won't dare to move a finger as the whole situation changed, of course you still can't just go in and raid the royal chambers as you'd still have to deal with a whole army and they will kill you with just numbers.
We are powerful but we can't fight forever.
It would be a blood bath but ultimately lead to our seizure.

During the escape. We can see that Papalymo blasts the gate shut, but why not do it from the other side? I think it was unnecessary for them to even try to stall for time. The gates should have been enough at the least. :U

Not really, seeing how they did catch up with you after all.