Patch 2.55 Poetics tome cap

[Themis]

Removing the lockout on WoD means that players can now achieve a base i120 very easily. But these piece cannot be upgraded, and not all pieces are that great for the jobs that can wear them. Primarily, though, it's catch up gear and allows players to move from an i110 easy base to an i120 easy base for their main and alt jobs.

Poetics gear, on the other hand, can be upgraded and are mostly better than the i120 WoD pieces especially where VIT is concerned (and most casual end game groups may need more HP to help them survive mechanics). Given that you can farm hunts for Twine/Coats (for non-raiders), having the cap on Poetics gear still means that they can't just farm there way to i130 over the space of a week. Removing the cap would make the easy baseline i130, and it's too early for that to be the case.

And whilst it is possible to farm FCoB now for i130 gear, this isn't an easy base to achieve and is out of reach of many players; not everyone has access to Final Coil. Many are still stuck on T9 (though the boosted Echo might help them clear it finally). It's also a fact that a good number of players are still on T5. And then there are players who really don't care for end game 8-man content. All of those players cannot farm FCoB for i130 gear. And even those with access might not have the content on farm status.

There's very few players (in comparison to the population) who are able to farm FCoB for their i130, at which point this gear isn't exactly necessary for them to progress further. All they are doing is gearing up their other jobs and filling in the remaining missing items for their mains.

As for weapons, it takes 3 weeks to get one. And even with an i130 weapon at that point, mechanics still make up the biggest challenge to players for end game content and these weapons just help to push them along but doesn't compensate for not handling Wild Charge correctly or whatever key mechanic exists.

tl;dr No lockout on WoD makes the baseline gear shift from i110 to i120. Capped Poetics keeps the base from going i110 to i130. The only people who can achieve i130 base are those who can farm FCoB, which is relatively few players.

[KihraJhin]

well, logged in and indeed, poetics cap is still here. this is so damn boring, i wanted to gear all classes in ilvl 130 bis, now i still got nothing to do in this game...why se, why? its still ~3 months until 3.0, pls give us something to do which we dont have to rush. i suspect the cap will be removed, but better do it now or we are forced to grind tons of dungeons in no time (or at least the completionist between us have to). the next 3 months will have 0 content in them, so give us something to do. gold saucer was a let down, triple triad tournys are just one big win trade factory, nothing original in that last patch 2.5 except maybe wod and that is outdated already. so pls let us at least gear up all classes in poetics and dreadwyrm gear.

[Avius]

Be good at the game and have a good group = Farm Coil get all your classes i130

Be casual and/or don't have a good group = stuck in your poetics or WoD gear.

You get out of the game what you can put into it.

Cry about the Lockout not being removed all you want but, but even if it was removed, will your sub par none bis i130 really do anything for you if you aren't clearing coil to start?

Kinda feels like a hollow request.

An example: The Grind (Zeta) came after the raid (Dreadwyrm), the raiders will always get the 'first slice of the cake' then the non raiders will come in to get the last few bites.

[Contradiction]

Given that you can farm hunts for Twine/Coats (for non-raiders), having the cap on Poetics gear still means that they can't just farm there way to i130 over the space of a week. Removing the cap would make the easy baseline i130, and it's too early for that to be the case.

I think you put it elegantly. Up to this point one could gear up 1 main and maybe 1 or 2 primary alt. Now you can gear up the other several jobs to the "baseline". Reasonable to assume that it's harder to gear up your alts (to the same standard as your main).

Without taking sides, it seems to strike the balance - if you want all alts at 130 the final coil is your challenge. There will also be some gap between new players and those who have played this for a while on alts. Rather reasonable on everybody, on all playstyles as each demography makes their compromises OR take incentives to go further outside your comfort zone. Either way everybody's main job is not compromised.

[LineageRazor]

So I was reading the notes and shocked the tome cap was not removed.

Disappointed, I could understand. But shocked? There's nothing surprising about SE continuing to do the same thing they've done since game release. One uncapped "lesser" tomestone, one weekly capped "greater" tomestone.

[Maero]

I don't know what the big deal is, how many players actually play more then 2 or 3 classes?
Myself i rotate between Bard, blm and Ninja but not a big deal.
If at all a cap increase would have been nice
And i disagree about the comment
"Be good at the game and have a good group = Farm Coil get all your classes i130
Be casual and/or don't have a good group = stuck in your poetics or WoD gear."

Some people get carried in final coil or even pay for clears and such, being good has nothing at all to do with having Dreadwyrm gear, in many occasions i have done more dps then those so called "Final Witness"
granted many have done great, others are not is all i am saying. Gear does not =skill

[ShaneDawn]

Cry about the Lockout not being removed all you want but, but even if it was removed, will your sub par none bis i130 really do anything for you if you aren't clearing coil to start?

Kinda feels like a hollow request.

I've also wondered this. Why care about the highest lvl gear if you don't even have any real use for it? To run the expert dungeon or burn down those already outdated to hell extreme trials a little bit faster?

I don't really mind them not removing the cap, and it makes sense, since they have always removed the cap at the introduction of a new tome. Just get the remainder of the gear you need before Heavensward. Don't like the wait? FCoB, it's mostly not about cans or can'ts, it's about the effort to get there.

[Eidolon]

Be good at the game and have a good group = Farm Coil get all your classes i130

Be casual and/or don't have a good group = stuck in your poetics or WoD gear.

That's funny. I thought the best players needed a mix of poetics and dreadwyrm. Being full dread for most classes is a DPS loss.

[Ashkendor]

That's funny. I thought the best players needed a mix of poetics and dreadwyrm. Being full dread for most classes is a DPS loss.

They do. Not to mention Zeta is BiS now too. Last bites of the cake, indeed.

[Aeyis]

You have 10 weeks to get 4500 poetics which you can then upgrade to i130 with free twines/coats, unrestricted WoD plus t10 will be the new t6 soon. I fail to see how there's a shortage of ways to get multiple jobs to i130 before 3.0 hits.

You fail at basic math then, I take it? Tell me, exactly how many (unique) items does 4500 poetics give?