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  1. #11
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    Smartcat's Avatar
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    Patricia Balcoin
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 70
    Ya very disappointed by this. For people that took a break from the game for a very long time it only makes harder to catch and get back to raiding. On the other hand at least it's a way to keep people engaged on something? I don't know what their angle was.
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  2. #12
    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Hazy Dreams
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    honestly i dont see what the big deal is. is WoD unlock not enough? sure we raiders get our 130 loot (which i'll personally be passing up anything not best in slot). yeah you may hate that i feel a little entitled for how much work i put into final coil when any casual dungeon can easily be done with a pug with minimal wipes. but 120 WoD gear is more then sufficient for the time being for alt classes. you'll get your poetics over time, don't get so upset over it
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  3. #13
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    FireHero's Avatar
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    Kane Firehero
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2 View Post
    Would you want to be quickly bored after a week of farming your i120/i130 gear?

    I mean. There has to be an incentive if you want to get the weapons as well. Can't expect everything given.
    But you can now just spam coils and get ilvl130 in no time so there no real grind for it if you just spam final coils to get it.

  4. #14
    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Hazy Dreams
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireHero View Post
    But you can now just spam coils and get ilvl130 in no time so there no real grind for it if you just spam final coils to get it.
    except poetics or any tome are guaranteed where as coil is still RNG if you see your loot or not
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  5. #15
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    Eul's Avatar
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Well this condition is same when on mytho, soldiery, and ST equipment so no comment at all
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  6. #16
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by FireHero View Post
    But you can now just spam coils and get ilvl130 in no time so there no real grind for it if you just spam final coils to get it.
    You are using words that do not make sense to most of the player base.
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  7. #17
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    aerialrave's Avatar
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    Jessie Belle
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Furia View Post
    Because everyone can farm FCoB.
    /s
    Everyone can farm WoD!
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  8. #18
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Question: Who is going to be farming Poetics/Twine/Coat/etc. in the expansion when I'm fairly certain that level cap (or near level cap) dungeons will drop the equivalent of or greater gear? It's literally because there's so little diversity in what you can do for gear that they have to keep it locked until they introduce a new lock. It's so pointless to keep it this way, but instead of encouraging players to play because there's so much to do they decided to give us 2 options for the highest tier of gear; One of them require endless grinding and the other you can only do once a week. They honestly care so little about you people and you're just like "Oh! But then what will I do for the next 3 months if they uncap Poetics?!" Do you not see the problem with that line of thinking? Do you not see why a cap on a currency shouldn't be the only thing that hooks you to an MMO? Honestly though, whatever. I'm heated over something that doesn't even matter to me, but it's still just so backwards and I hope it doesn't continue in the expansion. I know it will, but hey, stranger things have happened.
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  9. #19
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    Kane Firehero
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Question: Who is going to be farming Poetics/Twine/Coat/etc. in the expansion when I'm fairly certain that level cap (or near level cap) dungeons will drop the equivalent of or greater gear? It's literally because there's so little diversity in what you can do for gear that they have to keep it locked until they introduce a new lock. It's so pointless to keep it this way, but instead of encouraging players to play because there's so much to do they decided to give us 2 options for the highest tier of gear; One of them require endless grinding and the other you can only do once a week. They honestly care so little about you people and you're just like "Oh! But then what will I do for the next 3 months if they uncap Poetics?!" Do you not see the problem with that line of thinking? Do you not see why a cap on a currency shouldn't be the only thing that hooks you to an MMO? Honestly though, whatever. I'm heated over something that doesn't even matter to me, but it's still just so backwards and I hope it doesn't continue in the expansion. I know it will, but hey, stranger things have happened.
    well yup if the cap was unlocked i still be grinding like crazy to gear up all the jobs i use so players will still be there!

  10. #20
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    KihraJhin's Avatar
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    K'ihra Jhin
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    Shiva
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Brought it up on reddit already, wanted to bring it up here to get the attention of SE.

    About the loot lockout in final coil:

    The patch notes say that the weekly restriction of entering will be abolished. For WoD it specifically says that we can get unlimited loot, but for FCoB it only tells us about the entering. Im starting to think that, since its still so long until 3.0, the weekly loot lockout is still present.

    Right now we need at least one new player to enter a turn and we cannot enter T11 before clearing T10 (and so on). With these new changes mentioned in the patch notes, we can enter any turn at any time, as often as we'd like with the same 8 players and the weekly loot lockout can still be there. E.g. today is reset day, my team assembles, we dont need anything from T10 and 11, we go into T12 directly and clear T12 and T13. Then we'd like to try out that new awesome tactic for T13 someone of us just saw on youtube. So we assemble and simply go in again with the same 8 players. And if we kill it, no loot for us.
    Since we havent cleared T10 and 11 we can still go with other groups and upon clearing it with a group of 7 players that doesnt have the kill this week yet, we see two chests and can even loot on them. If we help someone else clear T13 that week while we already killed it, then that group will get only 1 chests, in case only 1-3 other players in that group (other than ourselves) already cleared T13 that week.

    Other arguments contra loot lockout removed:

    - still damn long until 3.0
    - carbontwine/-coat and stone only once per week and only one of those
    - no mentioning of the poetics cap
    - specific wording on the wod loot, while nothing specific about fcob loot

    So basically: No umlimites ilvl 130 pieces from poetics and no unlimited ilvl 130 pieces from coil, but unlimited ilvl 120 pieces from WoD and the ability to join any turn at any time. Sounds like a system that would help players clearing coil without opening up any endgame content for farming, since 3.0 is still months away.

    It would be nice if we could get a statement from an official, otherwise we just have to wait until servers up and try it out ourselves, what excatly is going on.
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    Last edited by KihraJhin; 03-31-2015 at 06:17 PM. Reason: too many characters

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