Ruining game experience

[VoltaAsura]

To be honest, it sounds like you need a welcoming FC that goes along at your pace, or is populated with people that share your type of play style. When you choose to use the Duty Finder, you will be paired up with God knows who - and this is the chance you take.

As someone else had mentioned, if you wanted this kind of experience, you should have started playing when the game initially launched. This is not a stab at you or telling you that you are wrong for starting to play when you did, but this is simply to say that most players would be new at this stage, and people wouldn't be rushing as fast as they do now (obviously). Also as someone else pointed out: MMOs can be kinda top heavy after a period of time. A lot of this game requires you to grind. Grinding for points, items, what have you. Players that are farming soldiery points for example, wouldn't really enjoy taking and hour or an hour and a half to finish a dungeon. Its simply not time efficient for their goal. Consider this, everyone you pair up with in DF may have a different reason for being in that instance than you. Does it make what they are doing, (rushing) while you want to enjoy the story - right? Possibly not, but you also have the option to leave the dungeon or make a preformed party to go at your own pace if you wish. You simply cannot force 7 other people to play as you expect them to.

Someone had also suggested getting or using a keyboard for the PS4 - I would totally second this. Communication is key in any MMO, and as you continue to progress through content, it will be increasing important to you getting stuff done.

ALSO, not all veteran players speed run or rush through everything. I had 3 separate Wanderer's Palace runs today where there was 1 or more people new in my party, in each run. Hell, the last run - all 3 people in the party were new. The discrepancy between our item level was pretty great to say the least (I was healing as WHM) and I had more HP than the tank (or both of the DPS combined). While I knew that this run could take a while, I didn't mind explaining things to the new people I played with today. Am I grinding for my relic items? Yes I am. Have I done 23 runs of WP with no drop? Yes. Would I prefer a 12 minute run? Absolutely. Do I expect this everytime? Of course not.

[Assassin01]

To follow up on that, definitely get a cheap keyboard for your PS4 if you don't have one already, so that you can tell people that you are new and make sure that they are not going to lock you out of boss battles or try to get you to skip cutscenes. If they aren't OK with that, you can quit the duty and try again in 30 minutes.

Thanks for the advice, will certainly look into that.

[Assassin01]

Not been on Internet long, first MMO game, only found out about it a couple of weeks ago, not on a very populated server so can't find FC that's appropriate,

[VoltaAsura]

There is a section in the forums for your server, that's definitely a good place to start. Surely there's a nice FC that would love to have you.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forums/1197-Zodiark

[ExiledOne]

the best thing to do, is, the first time around, don't feel guilty about watching the cutscenes and then just accept that you'll miss out on some of the battling (unless by talking to your party beforehand that you wish to view the cutscenes, and you never know, they might actually be happy to wait for you!). Once you've passed the final dungeon, then queue in Duty Finder for CM and the Praetorium again and this time skip the cutscenes and do the battles! That way you get the best of both worlds and everyone is happy.

However, looking back I don't think it's that different than watching them at the inn.
My first time through I watched every cut-scene, I was locked out of every fight, there really are too many/too long scenes in this. I basically got back to back scenes through the whole run. As far as seeing the team included in the scenes it is not that big a deal, the story itself does not really acknowledge anyone with you, it pretends that you did this solo.

I actually recommend to watch one scene, skip the rest, then run again and watch the next scene. You gain tomes anyways so you want to run it multiple times.

[nuyu11]

Find a friendly FC, they will wait for you or go around do a party finder.

[cgbspender]

You're probably referring to Castrum and Praetorium... I agree on what's been said. The other players should not lock you out, at least from boss, when you're into a cutscene.

However, you need to know, in those 2 dungeons, the fights keep being fought, even when you watch the cutscenes. If it's just one player, no problem. The others can handle the lack of one to keep fighting. If healers or tanks are new and take their time to watch while the dps are getting massacred, yes there's a problem. And it's not your fault, nor is it the ones' who kept fighting for their lives.
Very often, I will be in a team where more than half of the players are watching the cutscenes. When it's both the tanks and the other healer, you can only imagine how it feels to try to keep a few dps alive when 20 or 25 enemies are jumping all over the place.


A few leads :
As someone mentionned, the solution is simple. Skip the scenes, and watch them later.
You ran the dungeon, so this is for other players who'll be playing castrum in the future : ask your fellow NOT to click the switch during fights. This will avoid interruption in fighting.
For praetorium : There's not much you can do to be in time for boss if some of the tanks decided to speedrun. But at least, not to get lost and find your way, always mention you're new. There will often be someone nice enough to wait for you. Praetorium is easily solo-healable, solo tankable, and the lack of one dps won't have too much of an impact in fights.

[Niwashi]

I actually recommend to watch one scene, skip the rest, then run again and watch the next scene.

This works if you go only part way through, but you have to be sure to exit the dungeon before it completes. Sometimes cutscenes are tied to the dungeon itself and will play for everyone every time through. But other cutscenes are tied to the related quest and will appear only on that run that's part of the quest. If you actually complete the run, that advances the quest and you won't get another chance to see the quest cutscenes next time. That's why it's so important to watch them all on your first run. Because it's the only time you can.

[Niwashi]

Players that are farming soldiery points for example, wouldn't really enjoy taking and hour or an hour and a half to finish a dungeon. Its simply not time efficient for their goal.

Yet they're being given that soldiery as a reward for helping the new players see that content. That's the entire reason why the soldiery bonuses were added to it in the first place. If someone's goal is to earn that reward, then they'd better be willing to do what they're being rewarded for. Otherwise they don't belong there.

SE could have implemented it a lot better if they'd made the reward more specifically tied to the content. Skip a cutscene or leave behind someone who's watching a cutscene and you lose out on getting any completion rewards for the run. As often seems to happen, however, SE had a bit too much faith in players not being jerks. They trusted that when you're getting rewarded for helping someone that you'd actually help them.

[VoltaAsura]

Yet they're being given that soldiery as a reward for helping the new players see that content. That's the entire reason why the soldiery bonuses were added to it in the first place. If someone's goal is to earn that reward, then they'd better be willing to do what they're being rewarded for. Otherwise they don't belong there.

I was generalizing and was not specifically referring to a run that rewarded bonus soldiery. While I do see your point, it has been brought up numerous times before. Way before this thread even existed. My post was really just saying "joining the DF is a roll of the dice" as you never know who you will be paired up with, or what their intentions or goals are.

Also, you do not know ahead of time that you will be paired up with a new player. So you are entering DF blind - not knowing if you will get a bonus. It's not fair to say that players being rewarded for helping new players SEE content - they just so happen to be paired together due to DF.

Not long ago, we didn't have bonuses for new players and they would get harassed because of gear or low DPS - whatever. There used to be threads about it all the time. A great way to encourage "seasoned" players to play with new players and actually play older content was the introduction of this bonus.

SE could have implemented it a lot better if they'd made the reward more specifically tied to the content. Skip a cutscene or leave behind someone who's watching a cutscene and you lose out on getting any completion rewards for the run.

But there are no rewards in a lot of the dungeons that are tied to the story, so this would be useless unfortunately. I doubt that they would nerf soldiery like this too.