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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythre View Post
    No.


    I am saying NPCs Should "Buy" these from us for the amounts stated.

    Sell to NPC.
    Not Buy from NPC.
    This is the point I think you may seem to be overlooking, forget about the RMT spammers and bots for a minute, imagine if most people simply did this. Gil influx would be through the roof, sure you might get more on the market board but a lot of people would say screw it, easy quick cash. That much gill being introduced into the economy on top of the bots, would be an absolute nightmare, sure the prices would go up on everything, but that's because the buying power of gil would be low as its become worthless and there is so much of it in circulation, hence the need for gil sinks.

    In a nut shell, you can't solve economy problems by simply printing money. Doesn't work in real life and doesn't work in game.
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    Then you limit the amount something can be sold for on the market board. Each item its own particular limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythre View Post
    Then you limit the amount something can be sold for on the market board. Each item its own particular limit.
    Thus completely destroying any hope of a free market and completely screwing the economy.

    Supply and demand should rule all, it also gives those who play the market an added amount of fun within the game.
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    You do realize you can take 5 materia to mutamix and combine them into a random one, right? Take all your "not worth it to sell" materia and chance it for something good. If MB materia is that cheap, you can buy and combine as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamein View Post
    Thus completely destroying any hope of a free market and completely screwing the economy.

    Supply and demand should rule all, it also gives those who play the market an added amount of fun within the game.
    Supply and demand works when the system works.

    Right now the system is screwed when a Group of RMT/cheaters have access to over 50+ billion gil in reserves across all FFXIV servers. While the average player has trouble making their own gil go past 1 mil simply because "they" have the money to play the market.

    Free markets exist on a level playing field. This is NOT level.
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    Bump. Not just the tells, but on sargatanas the shouts are bad as well. Come on there has to be some kind of solution or deterrent! Most MMOs inability to stop this nonsense leads me to believe that they want RMT and the "don't use rmt, rmt is bad mmmmkay" mentality is just a cover up! Employing arcanic mechanism such as limited blist coupled with a total lack of quick report is just more evidence of this. This shit is getting more and more annoying and needs to be stopped ASAP
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  7. #17
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    Mutamix has a really cruddy rate to get good matera. Your better off selling to npc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee View Post
    Bump. Not just the tells, but on sargatanas the shouts are bad as well. Come on there has to be some kind of solution or deterrent! Most MMOs inability to stop this nonsense leads me to believe that they want RMT and the "don't use rmt, rmt is bad mmmmkay" mentality is just a cover up! Employing arcanic mechanism such as limited blist coupled with a total lack of quick report is just more evidence of this. This shit is getting more and more annoying and needs to be stopped ASAP
    There will always be a work around to anything does, just look on how they have to vary their tells just for them to go through. The only real solution is people need to STOP BUYING GIL, until that day happens enjoy all the tells from RMT (I've resorted to going /BUSY from the moment I log in and take off briefly if I need to do something and put back up).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee View Post
    Bump. Not just the tells, but on sargatanas the shouts are bad as well. Come on there has to be some kind of solution or deterrent! Most MMOs inability to stop this nonsense leads me to believe that they want RMT and the "don't use rmt, rmt is bad mmmmkay" mentality is just a cover up! Employing arcanic mechanism such as limited blist coupled with a total lack of quick report is just more evidence of this. This shit is getting more and more annoying and needs to be stopped ASAP
    Shouts on sarg? I've never seen them and I play 4-5 hours a day everyday.. Most I get is 5 tells a day once every hour or so.. There is no way to stop RMT without it limiting the players who aren't RMT. Yoshi has already stated that it is impossible to fully get rid of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nghthawk View Post
    There will always be a work around to anything does, just look on how they have to vary their tells just for them to go through. The only real solution is people need to STOP BUYING GIL, until that day happens enjoy all the tells from RMT (I've resorted to going /BUSY from the moment I log in and take off briefly if I need to do something and put back up).
    People wont stop until you severely enforce rules or reduce the means to monopolize. A way to do that is Limit the highest sell rate on markets to 1 mil. same as trades. And put higher minimum prices on items for sale to NPC's. The value of Gil to RMT will be ruined and regular players can now start to afford regular mats etc. If RMT continue to persist you then put all major base mats for sale via NPC vendors.

    Eventually they'll just leave.

    It worked in FFXI but they made it way too easy.
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