Coil groups don't want dragoons?

[Omni-Vocational_Ryan]

I play on brynhildr and most of the statics only seem to want ninjas and monks, when I ask if my dragoon can join I get told they don\\'t want to waste a slot. Is there actual decent reason for not bringing a dragoon or is it just their personal opinion? I know we don\\'t help any other class but bard and fellow dragoons out but I\\'d like to think we can still be useful in raids.

[HeavensSword]

Sounds like stupidity to me.

[Velox]

I'm assuming it's due to the fact that DRG has the least amount of utility and party-synergy, save with BRD. They also have a reputation of attracting bad players who can't optimize DPS properly, so the job comes with a bit of a stigma. That being said, when played properly (and I mean properly), they can achieve the highest DPS output on most fights, especially fights with large gaps in combat. Yes MNK has the overall highest DPS output in the game, but due to the nature of fights in FFXIV and how some of them force MNKs to lose GL stacks, this isn't always the case outside of tank-n-spank fights. MNK is really more valuable for Mantra and Dragon Kick's -10% INT debuff. NIN has the highest amount of utility and survivability of all Melee jobs, with only slightly less overall DPS than MNK/DRG. Not only that, but the buffs/debuffs they can apply benefit the entire party rather than specific jobs. Because of this, NIN is usually favored over DRGs.

My raid group has a DRG who knows how to really play the job. It's his raw ability that allows DRG to shine. Since DRG is really only there for the DPS, the player needs to know how to maximize it. A bad DRG offers very little to the party, which is why most parties will take the easy route and just go MNK/NIN for their groups.

[Myrhn]

Personal opinion mostly. Right now between the 3 melee dps my order of priority would be mnk > nin > drg. Mnk will be top dps if keep GL up, Nin

[CGMidlander]

They probably aren't groups you'd want to join anyway.

[Steady]

One of our statics have a Dragoon. There is no reason not to have a dragoon. Some people just have biases.

[siverstorm]

They probably aren't groups you'd want to join anyway.

This. If the group has any shortcomings they seem like the type who would peg dps issues on the drg.

Ultimately, skill > all. I can understand desiring a monk for progression (the difference DK makes blows my mind sometimes in t13). But if you're getting rejected from the other melee spot simply because you're a drg then I can't imagine anything good would come of joining those parties.

[Ultear_Milkovich]

Those guys were probably idiots and you will have way more fun without them.

My static's Dragoon not only kicks ass in terms of dps. I also really appreciate to have him on my side because he s also able to help me on fast burst/aoe phases. He s definitely my favorite dude.

[Ephier]

That bias comes from pre 2.4 buffs. The dragoon "dark ages" are over and they are perfectly viable. As for a priority system for melee all three are good. In a perfect world yes, MNK is top DPS, but everyone know how stupid coil can get, real quick, evening all three of the melee out.

[Mercutial]

OP... where are you at content-wise?