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  1. #151
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    Edeline's Avatar
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    Oerba'dia Vanille
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    You can't stop gilsellers. The only thing you can do is restrict their actions, making it harder for them to the point it's not profitable. Now it comes to the part where you have to carefully choose those in order not to hurt your legit community. One suggestion taken from other games was the options to block incoming tells from certain levels range. Spammers are lv1 chars that get deleted every few mins and remade after, even reporting them is useless because they'll no longer exist. Give people the option to block them directly at Lv1. This would force spammer bots to either give up or level up. Leveling up means time lost for them, and then getting banned after spending time in leveling up, not profitable.



    Some say this is very newbie unfriendly. But truth is, the way it is going right now, we have the Busy status, which basically works the same but it punishes us, not being able to be traded, tells from friends, invited to parties or whatever. So far I've never got a tell from a newbie asking stuff, they usually ask on Shout. Also in the hypothetical case I don't want to be whispered or "bothered" I would ignore those newbie tells anyway, so this wouldn't really hurt them, but it would help the rest as we're not obliged to reply.
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  2. #152
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Excalibur
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Edeline View Post
    snip
    maybe include a quest to it, like lvl 30 with finish main scenario lvl 30 + job quest
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  3. #153
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    they are running low on them.
    huh, nope ? Or you have figures showing how FFxiv is no longer profitable and will inevitably sink once again if SE bans the lame a**** buying gils ?
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  4. #154
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    Riepah Redeemer
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    an account ban for the buyer means a lost legitimate customer.
    Gil buyers? "Legitimate"?
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  5. #155
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    Darkshade's Avatar
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    Shade Hikari
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Was about to make my own thread,

    This is a big problem. Please SE, do something.
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    XI - Darkshade - Shiva
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  6. #156
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    an account ban for the buyer means a lost legitimate customer. based on how much they are charging for the expansion, SE cant afford to be losing paying customers right now, they are running low on them.
    Unless you have a really good link for that, you're just spouting fear uncertainty and doubt.

    Not to mention that going by the rule that exists in the terms and conditions we sign up to, there is nothing legitimate about a player who buys gil.

    I still think that if SE doesn't want to outright ban gil buyers, they should just bust all their classes back to lvl 1 and let them spend the time they re-level everything, thinking about their wrong doing.
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  7. #157
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    Aminnia Bonneroo
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    Dancer Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    legitimate
    You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

    legitimate [adj., n. li-jit-uh-mit; v. li-jit-uh-meyt] 1. According to law: lawful 2. in accordance with established rules, principles, or standards. 3. born in wedlock or of legally married parents. 4. in accordance with the laws of reasoning; logically inferable; logical 5. resting on or ruling by the principle of hereditary right 6. not spurious or unjustified; genuine 7. of the normal or regular type or kind
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  8. #158
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    Rei'sela Leiyal
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    I always see people saying that the spammers are deleted right away, but if that were true then my blacklist would have been full of [Deleted] and not full of xybyx ghfhghg and his cousins.
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  9. #159
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    Quentin Hood
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    You'd think 16 pages would be enough for SE to at least lie about making an effort to fix this. But I'm guessing SE stays honest to a fault. They just don't care.
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  10. #160
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    Chief Currahee
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 60
    If it wouldn't get me banned from these forums, every time I get a /tell from a RMT I sometimes fell like I should make a new post about it and just have the first few pages nothing but copy/paste of the RMT spam I just got.

    SE wouldn't allow that here on the forums, but seem to not give two ducks about it in game.

    maybe as protest to their inaction, on April 1st for like 1 hour starting @ 8pm EST anyone who gets a /tell from RMT to copy and post it as a new thread here, It would be a reflection of how our chat boxes look.
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