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  1. #51
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    I don't know how much it will affect 'trolls'. BUT since we're still beta-testing, I can see where SE is is going with this. They want feedback of the game in it's CURRENT state from people CURRENTLY playing. It's not fair to them or the active community to have people still on, lets just say a, 'WE NEED and AH NOW!' rant if that is merely people who haven't played for months. However, if the same rant comes from a player who's been actively playing, then it should hold more weight with the devs. This is one way to set the forums up to gather responses,comments,complaints and kuddos from the current in game community.

    Also, it does force those who've been heckling from the sidelines, to log in and hopefully, check it out for themselves. While they can log in, log out and get access and some might, others after waiting for the uber downloads they have to get through will probably at least consider checking the new changes out and seeing if they like it now. If even 10% of the 'trolly-neigh-sayers try out the game after logging in instead of logging out real quick, and end up liking it overall enough that they play 2-3 times a week, we will have all gained something.

    Besides, while it's f2p currently, people who haven't kept up with downloads will have some serious time spent just to do that and that alone MIGHT deter the less-motivated. So sure, they wouldn't have to keep up subscription fees, but they would have to keep updating as the patches came out...and sooner or later, that would get old.

    And while there might be a portion of the community that can't play now (PS3 peoples for example) and this in essence locks them out of commenting, they can still keep up to date by reading the posts and checking out the lodestone forums. Also, other sites won't have the same restrictions, so they will still see some of the raves and rants about this game. But as of now, SE is using these forums to improve the game. It only makes sense that they want to hear the opinions from those who are actively playing and therefore best able to praise and diss what's been changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griss View Post
    This.

    How many times have we seen some idiot giving feed back based on the status of the game last September? Or when ever it was that they quit. a wall of text about the evils of random sp gain during fights is going to do bugger all about any thing at this point.
    yeah, i agree. most of the trolls are white knights that have admitted they haven't played in months. they say they signed in for the first time in months the day before, but then a week later state the same thing. i hear how much better the game was when someone quit in september or october, but they couldn't really tell you a single thing about how the game was pre-1.18. the thing is the game HAD been getting better in stages(besides the nm nerf) until 1.18.
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    *sung to the tune of "Ridin Dirty"*

    They see me trollin'...
    They hatin'...
    Patrollin they tryin' to catch me trollin' dirty!

    Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    It's not fair to them or the active community to have people still on, lets just say a, 'WE NEED and AH NOW!' rant if that is merely people who haven't played for months.
    Uh, no. It's because all of their MW fixes are hack fixes that don't solve any looming problems. It only works now because of the lack of players.

    I'd rather not turn this into a MW vs AH thread, but I am 99.9% sure that once we get a mailbox, we'll be getting an AH soon too. If you can't send other players items via some pending system, you can't have an AH.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidSquirrel View Post
    Uh, no. It's because all of their MW fixes are hack fixes that don't solve any looming problems. It only works now because of the lack of players.

    I'd rather not turn this into a MW vs AH thread, but I am 99.9% sure that once we get a mailbox, we'll be getting an AH soon too. If you can't send other players items via some pending system, you can't have an AH.
    Lol... then, maybe you should have seen that I was using it to make a point and not debating the flaws or merits of each system. There are plenty of threads dedicated to such discussions within these forums. Go debate there. This thread is about, SE's new posting policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naqaj View Post
    The more interesting outcome would be: once this change happens, and all those evil non-playing trolls are gone, yet we still have countless people making threads about how bad the game is, what excuse will the fanboys pull out next?

    Exciting change indeed.
    That outcome would be because people can just log into the game to gain access to forums. It is, after all, free right now, so it is no skin off their back. Plus I know several trolls who not only troll the forums but make a habit to log into the game to spread their hate in open shout. It is entertainment for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    I don't know how much it will affect 'trolls'. BUT since we're still beta-testing, I can see where SE is is going with this. They want feedback of the game in it's CURRENT state from people CURRENTLY playing. It's not fair to them or the active community to have people still on, lets just say a, 'WE NEED and AH NOW!' rant if that is merely people who haven't played for months. However, if the same rant comes from a player who's been actively playing, then it should hold more weight with the devs. This is one way to set the forums up to gather responses,comments,complaints and kuddos from the current in game community.

    Also, it does force those who've been heckling from the sidelines, to log in and hopefully, check it out for themselves. While they can log in, log out and get access and some might, others after waiting for the uber downloads they have to get through will probably at least consider checking the new changes out and seeing if they like it now. If even 10% of the 'trolly-neigh-sayers try out the game after logging in instead of logging out real quick, and end up liking it overall enough that they play 2-3 times a week, we will have all gained something.

    Besides, while it's f2p currently, people who haven't kept up with downloads will have some serious time spent just to do that and that alone MIGHT deter the less-motivated. So sure, they wouldn't have to keep up subscription fees, but they would have to keep updating as the patches came out...and sooner or later, that would get old.

    And while there might be a portion of the community that can't play now (PS3 peoples for example) and this in essence locks them out of commenting, they can still keep up to date by reading the posts and checking out the lodestone forums. Also, other sites won't have the same restrictions, so they will still see some of the raves and rants about this game. But as of now, SE is using these forums to improve the game. It only makes sense that they want to hear the opinions from those who are actively playing and therefore best able to praise and diss what's been changed.
    You make a great point. However, those side-liners can do exactly what trolls do. Just log in once and then get to post for another month. It really isn't going to show who is playing and who is just hanging on because they have nothing better to do in their pathetic existence. I think they should make it that you have to have a certain amount of clocked hours in game, but I don't know how they could tell active from idle avatars since they could technically just log in and leave it sit there too.

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    And why are we even discussing this? If it won't help nothing will change. If it does even better.
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    Maybe there are people who completely uninstalled their game. Would they go through the trouble of reinstalling it in order to talk in the forums?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    most of the trolls are white knights that have admitted they haven't played in months.
    You are using the term "white knight" entirely wrong. Technically, because the "white knights" act to "rescue the damsel in distress", they would be part of the XIV *defense force* in this case, completely opposite the trolls. By definition, trolls attempting to destroy the game would not be, in any shape or form, "white knights".

    /randomsidenote
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