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  1. #61
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    Ophie-Mio's Avatar
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    Yoongi Mio
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuurei View Post
    Two things can be done to prevent it far more readily since Bans/Deletions don't seem to be doing much at all. We need to make it significantly more costly for RMT to operate on our servers.

    --Require finishing the Level 20 Main Scenario quest to use the Marketboard, Trade only allowed with Friends or Free Company members until that point as well.
    --Accounts flagged via player report for tell spam or suspicious activity (I.E. these weird 99 stacks of Tin Ores/Bat Wings for 1 gil apiece on broker) will have Mail, Marketboard, and /tell functions disabled pending an investigation.
    Back in the day, RMT used free accounts to get what they wanted and it wasn't anything to get banned on them or whatever. Since SE implemented a change to how the free accounts work, there hasn't been any change at all...except that it got worse depending on server. The current restrictions for free accounts is:

    - Class levels are capped at level 20 for Free Trial characters.
    - Gil (in-game currency) is capped at 20,000 for Free Trial characters.
    - The chat options /shout, /yell, and /tell cannot be used by Free Trial characters.
    - The Market Board cannot be used by Free Trial characters.
    - Trades cannot be made with or by Free Trial characters.
    - The Moogle Delivery Service cannot be used by Free Trial characters.
    - Retainers cannot be used or hired by Free Trial characters.
    etc etc etc
    So if all of that isn't enough to stop them, when they have their actual accounts or stolen ones, how can anything else stop them? RMT spam is a thing in MMOs. Always has and always will be until the game ain't rolling anymore.
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  2. #62
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    Jayo Oreon
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    Ive never had RMT personal messaging spam this bad in any game ive played.
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  3. #63
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    Kurei Hitaka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darlan_Ashwood View Post
    Ive never had RMT personal messaging spam this bad in any game ive played.
    Same, and like I mentioned...EQ2 and Rift, both of which are still arguably populated, have both completely nuked it with simple restrictions that make it pretty much impossible lol.
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  4. #64
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    Ryu Gier
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    Balmung
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    Ban both the rmt and the country they're from. Which should be obvious.
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  5. #65
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    F'iona Jinh
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    Hello! I saw this post under the RMT tag and wanted to link to one I put under feedback. I think it would be a good idea to add a 'Report Gil Seller' button under 'Add to Blacklist' when you right click a name. I'm sure they'd have to add a system of some kind to handle that, but more people might report them if it was a little easier and didn't take 5 minutes per gil seller. I don't know if it's been suggested before and it's possible it might not make a difference, but I'd like to hope it might! Here's the post if anyone cares to comment, support, or disagree:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...10#post2852610
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  6. #66
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    Nel Synestra
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    Just make another chat tab for tells then disable sound effect and vola no more RMT spam.
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  7. #67
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    Tocsin Wolndara
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    Jenova
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    I came here looking for my daily SCUBA-INSTR post, relating to RMT, and it wasn't here. im sad. Come back, fiar lady, even if I don't agree with you!

    anyways, just to stir the pot a bit (mah specialty!) I might say that SE may have a budding interst in keeping at least a part of the RMT industry alive. The entire crafting system in FFXIV would be completely unsustainable, without RMT shard bots. Literally, if all RMT was instantaneously shut down, the entire economy derivated from shards (crafted goods, potions, food) would all instantly skyrocket to 10 to 50 times its current pricing, due to lack of shard supply.

    RMT is a backbone of the FFXIV crafting system. fact.
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  8. #68
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    Rox Milaj
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    Jenova
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    rmt messages bother people that much? I just ignore them.....Even times when Ive gotten em back to back to back, it usually happens and then doesnt happen again for another hour or so. You guys have chat logs that are THAT important or something?
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  9. #69
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuurei View Post
    Same, and like I mentioned...EQ2 and Rift, both of which are still arguably populated, have both completely nuked it with simple restrictions that make it pretty much impossible lol.
    I'm not sure if Rift has it, but EQ2 makes use of a system that lets people buy Gold subscriptions and trade them with other players, similar to PLEX from EVE Online called Krono
    Thus since the game itself facilitates a form of legit RMT, there's no real market for the 3rd party RMTs.
    Its actually proven to be a VERY good way to mitigate RMT spam as they won't exert the effort to spam a game that they can't profit from. It's one of the reasons Wildstar jumped on the bandwagon at launch and is probably the biggest reason the game is still P2P when its more popular contemporary, ESO, recently went B2P (not being a bugridden mess also helps, but i digress)
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    T'rion Tia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    And there's a world of difference between injecting cow hormones into your butt and visiting a website.
    Oh gods, I've been doing it wrong all these years.
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