Losing the RMT spam war SE?

[Bishop81]

The only reason RMTs keep "winning" is because people keep visiting their sites and getting keyloggers on their computers, thus giving them more CCs/accounts to use for more spamming and gold to sell.
If a company would actually educate their playerbase on what RMTers actually are and do, then the numbers would drop drastically.
You could probably mitigate more RMT bots coming into existence by forcing your clientele to watch a 5 minute video on what RMTers are and how to stop them than by mass banning bots that get replaced in 5 minutes because people are too stupid to stop visiting these sites in the first place.
Just looking at this thread is more than enough evidence that people really don't grasp how RMTers actually work.

"Education" totally worked for fixing professional sports' doping problem.

Just saying.

[kyuven]

"Education" totally worked for fixing professional sports' doping problem.

Just saying.

It really couldn't make the system any worse. And there's a world of difference between injecting cow hormones into your butt and visiting a website.

[Lexxuk]

We are not asking for a miracle and SE to suddenly ban 100% of spam bots within 0.5 seconds, all we want is some control over OUR chat box. Simple filters would work

Allow tells from linked people (FC/LS's)
Allow tells from friends list (friends list...)
Allow tells from level 10 or below characters

Simple filters like that, on by default so you can receive tells from everyone, or, you can block /tells from people you don't know or have no connection to.

[Bishop81]

It really couldn't make the system any worse.

Fair enough.

[Chihaya]

http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/15/f...-mmo-industry/
http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/UnSub/02...dit-Card-Fraud
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/featur...ts.php?print=1

Talk about combating RMT and credit card fraud, if you think just banning accounts is causing RMT to lose RL money then they probably wouldn't be in business.

[KarmaCha]

+1 million for account wide black list.

[kyuven]

Allow tells from linked people (FC/LS's)
Allow tells from friends list (friends list...)
Allow tells from level 10 or below characters

I've said this before but this will not STOP RMTers, just force them to change tactics.
Can't send tells with a character under lvl 10? They level their bots to 11.
Friends list? They already throw out spam friend invites.
FC/LS? See friend invites.

[Kuwagami]

I've said this before but this will not STOP RMTers, just force them to change tactics.
Can't send tells with a character under lvl 10? They level their bots to 11.
Friends list? They already throw out spam friend invites.
FC/LS? See friend invites.

not even counting that some RMT even go all the way of behaving normally the time to enter an established FC, then bot the crap out of the game, putting the shame on the FC rather than on their industry.

[Arkista]

The amount of tells I get have increased so much since last summer. Stopped playing July/14 was getting maybe 4 tells a day, Came back in Jan/15 maybe like 6-10/day. Now its ridiculous, Spending more time outside of dungeons may be the issue I'm having now. Today alone in 6hrs I added 19 ppl to my black list..... Crazy.

I don't know what the filter FFXI used but Yoshida's team should try it. That or give us the option to turn tells on and off. I've also noticed that RMTs have gotten smarter with their choice of names, Use to be random letters, Now it seems like legit players sending me tells.

[BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY]

SoE, or rather Day Break Games now, has a very minimal amount of RMT activity. granted they are a more experienced company, and their games have all mostly been out much longer then this one.

at any rate, all i really want to see is SE actually say something. i just want to see SE say that they are ever constantly trying to improve the situation. but all i ever see is action taken once per week. and yes... whoever said they take action more then once per week, they don't. SE already said it themselves like a year ago. they will only take action once per week and collectively issue punishment for illicit activities. i don't know where the post is, but a red name most certainly said it.

all we need is some reassurance that they aren't just repeating the same thing over-an-over. that they are planning something, or will try something new.