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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
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    Heres the problem; you cant cure stupid. Its like keeping your child from crawling off a cliff. So the best thing you can do is prevent it.
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    So much cynicism in this thread.
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    Player BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    So much cynicism in this thread.

    and for good reason... it has been over a year. and there hasn't been even remotely the slightest drop in RMT activity. nor as SE done a single thing different. simply put, the situation will never be elevated. SE has to start doing something new or different. i can't suggest anything that hasn't already been suggested, and am sure there is at least one valid idea on these forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY View Post
    and for good reason... it has been over a year. and there hasn't been even remotely the slightest drop in RMT activity. nor as SE done a single thing different. simply put, the situation will never be elevated. SE has to start doing something new or different. i can't suggest anything that hasn't already been suggested, and am sure there is at least one valid idea on these forums.
    Speak for yourself. I almost never see RMT spam. Maybe one message a week. I think I have 2 people on my black list at the moment. Everyone does not share the problem the same way you do. You're assuming that all players have the same problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darius-Stormcrow View Post
    Goblin Bounty Hunters.
    That was for fishing. Wouldn't be relevant here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Speak for yourself. I almost never see RMT spam. Maybe one message a week. I think I have 2 people on my black list at the moment. Everyone does not share the problem the same way you do. You're assuming that all players have the same problem.
    Then if you aren't experiencing problems with RMT spam, there's no reason for you to be commenting in a thread about players who are experiencing this problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elusana_Celah View Post
    Then if you aren't experiencing problems with RMT spam, there's no reason for you to be commenting in a thread about players who are experiencing this problem.
    When it's nothing but cynicism a voice speaking up to balance things out IS necessary. Just like the person before who posted the RMT bannings that everyone likes to ignore when they act like Square does nothing.

    This thread IS NOT your echo chamber. It's a forum where anybody can hop in and speak their mind either for or against the topic. I think you should find a way to accept that. Or you know, go look up the definition of a forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY View Post
    RMT activity is out-of-hand. it may not be on your world, but it is on many of the other worlds.
    Keep that in mind when you start making blanket complaints. Don't say..

    Quote Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY View Post
    has it gotten anyone anywhere? no! there hasn't been the slightest drop in RMT activity since launch. and unless SE starts making some changes, we will never see a decline in RMT activity.
    Instead say something about how YOUR server has it bad since you clearly don't know the situation on other servers.
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 03-20-2015 at 12:30 AM.

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    Player BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Speak for yourself. I almost never see RMT spam. Maybe one message a week. I think I have 2 people on my black list at the moment. Everyone does not share the problem the same way you do. You're assuming that all players have the same problem.



    That was for fishing. Wouldn't be relevant here.

    i never assumed anything. did i ever say anything about other players? of course i am speaking from personal experiences... but one thing i can say, is that anyone on Exodus is sure to have had similar experiences. also i think a world merger is coming up in either 3.0, or sometime after. so things can always change for you.

    either way, no matter how it is looked at... RMT activity is out-of-hand. it may not be on your world, but it is on many of the other worlds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    That was for fishing. Wouldn't be relevant here.
    I know, I'm just nostalgic for the days when specific botting problems were solved with violence.

    I'm honestly of the opinion that as long as the folks doing the RMT are determined to get their 'product' advertised, they'll find a way. There's always a parasitic element to games like this. Account-based blacklisting is a pretty solid idea but that might just put more of a focus on trying to steal accounts belonging to legitimate players in order to advertise there. I don't think there's a clear cut solution, but it hasn't gotten that bad yet- I'm willing to put up with being annoyed on occasion. Server economies getting ruined, on the other hand. Might need a more heavy-handed approach. But as far as I know we're not at that point yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Speak for yourself. I almost never see RMT spam. Maybe one message a week. I think I have 2 people on my black list at the moment. Everyone does not share the problem the same way you do. You're assuming that all players have the same problem
    You're on fucking Balmung dude! Seriously, how are you people on Balmung still not getting it?!? If RMT can't create a character there, they can't do their create-spam-delete-create cycle that the rest of us are seeing. Are you special? I mean seriously dude. It doesn't even take a whole lot of thought to figure that out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenian View Post
    You're on fucking Balmung dude! Seriously, how are you people on Balmung still not getting it?!? If RMT can't create a character there, they can't do their create-spam-delete-create cycle that the rest of us are seeing. Are you special? I mean seriously dude. It doesn't even take a whole lot of thought to figure that out!
    The point was literally not to make assumptions about the state on all servers. Not that this wasn't a problem. I draw attention to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    You're assuming that all players have the same problem.
    Based on your anger I'd say you completely missed the point of my message. It's about assumptions. About the falsity of blanket statements and the fallacies they represent.

    In the end the only important part is this anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    If they didn't have a market they'd go away. Blame the players for sustaining their business.
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 03-21-2015 at 01:35 AM.

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