When is summoner getting ramuh/shiva/levi?

[DevilsDontFly]

I wish summoner could have stances as well. It would be nice if all your skills changed based on what summon you had at your side by that time. And since summoner is all about DoTs and status ailments, we could also use the Dark-Type spells. This could make the Summoner a supportive DPS.

I like SMN but personally I don't feel like a Summoner. I feel like a Tamer with a digimon to fight for/with me.

[GalkaBikini]

Pretty much, lol. Thank God you can't ride those in CT ;P

[BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY]

Lastly, we don't have larger Egi solely because of ps3 limitations. Yeah, I said it. They went and locked it away with lore reasons as well and now it will never change.

sorry, but you are wrong. hardware limitations have nothing to do with it. it honestly doesn't even make sense for every player to be able to summon the same primal. why should 100 different people be able to summon the same primal? even a being of that kind of power would have trouble splitting its conscious up that much. it seriously doesn't make sense. being able to only summon an egi of a primal makes like 100x more sense. not as cool, but much more sensible.

i see you have actually played ACN/SMN quest-line. you should be able to understand why only an egi makes more sense then the being itself.

[Tiggy]

sorry, but you are wrong. hardware limitations have nothing to do with it. it honestly doesn't even make sense for every player to be able to summon the same primal. why should 100 different people be able to summon the same primal? even a being of that kind of power would have trouble splitting its conscious up that much. it seriously doesn't make sense. being able to only summon an egi of a primal makes like 100x more sense. not as cool, but much more sensible.

i see you have actually played ACN/SMN quest-line. you should be able to understand why only an egi makes more sense then the being itself.

You're more concerned with the meta-game/lore reasons. There is a direct memory limitation that you really need to play more attention to. The lore reasons are an explanation in game to ultimately explain away why devs didn't do it in the first place. It, however, isn't the reason they did that in the first place or the sole reason. The 256mb memory limitation on the ps3 is very very real. There is a reason players and npcs animate like a slide show on the ps3. There is a reason you can barely load anyone in Revenant's toll. The system is straining. Summons any bigger than we get now would be a technical hurdle that might literally be impassible on the ps3.

Try to remember that games must first be designed on hardware and work on that hardware. The lore comes secondary and is often affected directly by those hardware limits and system capabilities.

I'm not saying the lore stuff you cited isn't relevant. I'm just saying it's a by-product of the hardware limit.

[Bishop81]

IMHO the egis are "small" because we simply can't have huge screen blocking pets running around.

It's not like they can't scale the size of the egis up - same model and textures.

Big summons will probably only be possible for LB. However I wouldn't expect too much of the detail even then - the current caster LB "Meteor" is quite blocky.

[Obysuca]

Ifrit is perfectly acceptable in several fights, has been for a while now.

From what I've seen, Ifrit is better on trash mobs than Garuda is too. Garuda for bosses of course.

[Kuwagami]

From what I've seen, Ifrit is better on trash mobs than Garuda is too. Garuda for bosses of course.

nope. Ifrit is for short fights (better dps) and garuda for longer fights (better MP management due to contagion). That's the only real difference between the 2.

Well, maybe Ifrit tends to die more against bosses' AoEs

[NinjaTaru72]

snip.

That's still false. There's no way that ps2 with XI can have great looking summons and ps3 XIV can't. Please do explain how the ps2 is better than the ps3?

Even if they took the XI summons and put them in XIV I'm sure a lot of people would be more happy.

They could easily make bigger models. An dour just being ignorant to the fact and letting them bs you into what they want you to think.

[NinjaTaru72]

IMHO the egis are "small" because we simply can't have huge screen blocking pets running around.

It's not like they can't scale the size of the egis up - same model and textures.

Big summons will probably only be possible for LB. However I wouldn't expect too much of the detail even then - the current caster LB "Meteor" is quite blocky.

Look at my pictures, even in XI they weren't "screen blocking" they were nice sized lol.

I don't understand why they won't even scale them up a. Bit... And stop making garuda look like a booger, but that's another story.

[Chukkaque]

Answering only the original post:

The devs mentioned this in a previous letter stating that they want to add the 3 new egis, but if they did it wouldn't be until the expansion. That being said, with the expansion we get 10 more levels which means at least 2 new job skills per job, assuming they follow the old trend of every 5 levels, and additional class skills as well.