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    it's easy really, they'll be the ones avoiding you for making such a stupid thread on the forums.

    Bad! BAD!

    Stop!

    Gender in an MMO means nothing unless you're interested in that person in the real world too, and can actually find some way to be a part of their real life. Otherwise you're just in a videogame.
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    Everyone I come across I just assume is a person. That's how I identify any player. If their in FC or Friends I'll use the words they,their which are gender neutral, until said person brings it up if its a problem and then I will correct myself with said information. But a person's real gender has no effect on me, or anyone else ingame so I pay no initial attention to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TessaJalloh View Post
    it's easy really, they'll be the ones avoiding you for making such a stupid thread on the forums.

    Bad! BAD!

    Stop!

    Gender in an MMO means nothing unless you're interested in that person in the real world too, and can actually find some way to be a part of their real life. Otherwise you're just in a videogame.
    In FFXIV we are all the same gender, the gender of Gamer ^_^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Just... what? All of the men that I know that play female characters are open about it. They aren't playing a female character to deceive anyone into thinking they're girls. That does happen, yes, but it's not exactly the norm. I've run across maybe half a dozen men that do that in the entire time that I've been on the internet (around 20 years now). They're playing one because they want to. Who the hell died and gave you the right to tell people what gender their avatar on an online game should be? Why do you even care?
    If a guy showed up to play monopoly wearing a wig with his nails done … I would think that’s weird too. It’s arguably the same thing.

    If you’re allowed to play a different gender in a roleplaying video game then I’m allowed to think it’s weird. Free speech and all that wonderful stuff works both ways you know? I’ve never shown any disrespect. I never said it was “wrong”. How can I? I had a lot of guy friends that played as females. They know I think it’s weird. They don’t care and I don’t treat them any differently. So stop with the horrible assumptions about me.

    The only thing I said that can even remotely be taken that way was saying that guys stick out like a sore thumb when roleplaying as a girl. And I basically meant if you’re going to do something, then at least do it right.

    You do realize that males and females are almost evenly split in gaming these days, right? it's not nearly as male dominated as it used to be. Why would a girl think that another girl was fishing for cyber just because she says she's a girl?
    It’s not evenly split at all in MMOs. I’ve never seen a study putting MMO female players above ~25% of the population.

    Plenty of girls do think other girls screaming “I’m a girl” are just looking for attention… If you don’t know that then I guess I taught you something today. I know and respect plenty of female gamers. So stop making me out to be sexist too.

    And what if it was? What's wrong with having a lot of homosexual males around?
    Nothing that I know of… Once again please stop labeling me as whatever it is you labeled me as. I don’t care who or what people like to screw. I’m allowed to notice trends in populations. I said nothing derogatory or judgmental. I noticed a trend and I wonder if there is something that caused it. That doesn’t make me homophobic. It is garbage like this that is a real curse to this planet. You make problems and cause drama over NOTHING. Learn to communicate instead of constantly judging people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    It’s not evenly split at all in MMOs. I’ve never seen a study putting MMO female players above ~25% of the population.

    Plenty of girls do think other girls screaming “I’m a girl” are just looking for attention… If you don’t know that then I guess I taught you something today. I know and respect plenty of female gamers. So stop making me out to be sexist too.
    Do people like you even try? Seriously, it took me 30 seconds and a single google search to find things that prove you wrong. All reports/studies/stats/articles showing a higher percentage than 25%. Anywhere from 35% tp 45%.

    http://www.statista.com/statistics/2...ers-in-the-us/
    http://129.105.161.80/uploads/LFG_JOC.pdf
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7796482.stm
    http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/27/r...le-mobile-rpg/
    http://www.vg247.com/2014/10/28/fps-...n-research-pc/
    http://www.superdataresearch.com/blo...gamers-matter/

    Also, you can't really speak for other girls. Considering you are a guy. I personally have no issue with women saying their gender. I don't think it's for attention, it does come up during normal conversations. It's a pretty ridiculous statement to say many other women think that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evelynddra View Post
    I personally have no issue with women saying their gender. I don't think it's for attention, it does come up during normal conversations. It's a pretty ridiculous statement to say many other women think that.
    Actually me and my female friends are part of that "plenty" he talks of. It's okay if your gender comes up in a conversation that is on topic, but when people post stuff like "come to my gaming channel, hot chick gamer!", yeah, that's attention. When they shout "Will anyone carry this poor dragoon girl with them to clear Odin ; ;? Will give TIGHT hugs in bikini", that's attention and trying to take advantage of your gender. And sadly there's many of them out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    Actually me and my female friends are part of that "plenty" he talks of. It's okay if your gender comes up in a conversation that is on topic, but when people post stuff like "come to my gaming channel, hot chick gamer!", yeah, that's attention. When they shout "Will anyone carry this poor dragoon girl with them to clear Odin ; ;? Will give TIGHT hugs in bikini", that's attention and trying to take advantage of your gender. And sadly there's many of them out there.

    No doubt. I fully understand people like that exist. But to say the only reason gender, specifically from women, comes up is for attention is incorrect. Literally anyone can do things for attention. Yet the focus is always on those pesky women waving their gender for stuff. Which, to be perfectly honest, in all my years playing MMO it's happened so rarely I don't even see how this is an issue. There are plenty of times when it's actually men doing that also. I've encountered more cases of men saying those things on a female toon than a women doing it. I actually encountered a couple who did this. Her husband played a girl toon, and they delighted in seeing what other people would give him.

    So yeah, I'm always weary of this mysterious women who gets things from men. It's often used as a way to even further seperate gamers. Not only do we have to prove to men we're actually ladies who play (otherwise we're just men because ladies totes don't game), but we also have to prove we're not THOSE women. Only then can the male gamers bless us as real gamers. /sarcasm

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    I guess the 25% was a bit dated. It seems to be around 33% now. The 40% just doesn't seem right though. If you look at these articles a little closer that 40% is never directly linked with MMOs. They artificially inflate that 40% by including "mobile games". Middle aged female gamers have skyrocketed since Farmville and Candy Crush were released.

    And, I'm not talking about normal conversations or correcting people. I thought I already said that. There's a difference between being annoyed that some guy is calling you dude and telling everyone in a PUG that you are a girl for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
    The first link to stats says 40%. I don't know exactly where they got those stats though, so I do tend to be curious about it. The last one also says 40%, but does seem to be a blog post. Though one done by games analyst. Though, arguably, a mobile MMO is still an MMO. Quite frankly, my opinion is that if you play games...you can be considered a gamer (this include tabletop). Obviously there's a difference between the housewives who play Candy Crush while waiting for their kids, but she also isn't going to be the one calling herself a gamer.

    I honestly didn't see you differentiate between anything. You're example was merely girls saying "I'm a girl" which is fairly broad. Regardless, I have addressed above to another person my opinions on that situation as well.
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    Last edited by Evelynddra; 03-19-2015 at 05:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    Actually me and my female friends are part of that "plenty" he talks of. It's okay if your gender comes up in a conversation that is on topic, but when people post stuff like "come to my gaming channel, hot chick gamer!", yeah, that's attention. When they shout "Will anyone carry this poor dragoon girl with them to clear Odin ; ;? Will give TIGHT hugs in bikini", that's attention and trying to take advantage of your gender. And sadly there's many of them out there.
    Thank you. I explained it poorly. This is much better. Since everyone is jumping on me already for crap I didn't say... I didn't want to give them more material.

    No, I don't think the majority of female gamers are looking for white knights. Yes, I think those girls are looked down upon by most other girls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evelynddra View Post
    Do people like you even try? Seriously, it took me 30 seconds and a single google search to find things that prove you wrong. All reports/studies/stats/articles showing a higher percentage than 25%. Anywhere from 35% tp 45%.http://www.statista.com/statistics/2...ers-in-the-us/
    http://129.105.161.80/uploads/LFG_JOC.pdf
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7796482.stm
    http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/27/r...le-mobile-rpg/
    http://www.vg247.com/2014/10/28/fps-...n-research-pc/
    http://www.superdataresearch.com/blo...gamers-matter/

    Also, you can't really speak for other girls. Considering you are a guy. I personally have no issue with women saying their gender. I don't think it's for attention, it does come up during normal conversations. It's a pretty ridiculous statement to say many other women think that.
    I guess the 25% was a bit dated. It seems to be around 33% now. The 40% just doesn't seem right though. If you look at these articles a little closer that 40% is never directly linked with MMOs. They artificially inflate that 40% by including "mobile games". Middle aged female gamers have skyrocketed since Farmville and Candy Crush were released.

    And, I'm not talking about normal conversations or correcting people. I thought I already said that. There's a difference between being annoyed that some guy is calling you dude and telling everyone in a PUG that you are a girl for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
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