Ifrit egi reworked, personal artwork =)

[Akiza]

And yet scratch beneath the surface and it was obvious the shortcuts SE had to do to allow players to summon full-size summons in FFXI - this is why for every second an avatar was out it chewed through the player's MP, meaning the player had to set up some convoluted equipment sets (usually gear with an Auto-Refresh effect, a bonus to the element of that avatar, and the 'reduced avatar perpetration cost' bonus) to keep their summon out (Carbuncle was the only one who could really be kept out at all times, and even then required special gear to do so).

It was also the reason why Odin and Alexander could only be summoned briefly with the 2-hour ability Astral Flow to do their special attack and then disappear, and why Bahamut still isn't summonable (and never will be) - their size just causes technical problems.
Extend that to here in FFXIV with a far greater amount of player character models on screen in greater detail and couple that with the fact the game's narrative has long stated that to summon a Primal in it's 'full' form requires multiple summoners summoning at once and an enormous cost in aether, and it shows that no matter how hard the community whines for it, SMN will not be changed. You may as well accept that fact and move on.

The community has already accepted it that's why the Summoner is facing extinction.

[Eloah]

The community has already accepted it that's why the Summoner is facing extinction.

I highly doubt Summoner is facing extinction. I know plenty of people, myself included, who main as Summoner for their DPS class; my official main being Scholar. And all of this talk about how Summoner is represented in this game over others is a little ridiculous at times. If you ask me it's the whole FFVII issue again. People are so blinded by nostalgia that they can't see something for what it really is, good or bad; not saying Summoner is bad. But just like after FFVII came out "new fans" felt no game was better, and every game afterwards was mideocre. Was VII a good game, yes. But did it have a lot of problems too, yes; one of the reasons why a remake might be a bad idea, it will probably destroy people's nostalgia. And from my personal experience, most people dont remember the game correctly, or Cloud correctly for that matter. Anyway, is this version of Summoner good, yes. Could it maybe be better, possibly. Is it better or worse than any other Summoner, NO, That line of thinking fall into personal preference. Remember, each game is different, and each class will have slight or extensive differences as each game calls for it.

[Exodus-E]

The community has already accepted it that's why the Summoner is facing extinction.

"Facing extinction"?
They already kind of fixed their biggest issue through a recent patch (MP management, by lowering the cost of Ruin/Ruin II).
Other than that, they KNOW they have other issues which they'll fix once the expansion rolls out.
So not even close; for the time being, they're viable as is.

[Akiza]

"Facing extinction"?
They already kind of fixed their biggest issue through a recent patch (MP management, by lowering the cost of Ruin/Ruin II).
Other than that, they KNOW they have other issues which they'll fix once the expansion rolls out.
So not even close; for the time being, they're viable as is.

keep telling yourself that most people refused to play Summoner until SE overhauls them to be more like Rydia with elemental abilities.

[Syrellaris]

"Facing extinction"?
They already kind of fixed their biggest issue through a recent patch (MP management, by lowering the cost of Ruin/Ruin II).
Other than that, they KNOW they have other issues which they'll fix once the expansion rolls out.
So not even close; for the time being, they're viable as is.

I see less summoners then I used to see, but as a Summoner main(which I shelved for ninja now) they are a decent class, just visual wise.. horribly lacking.