Housing market value & insane prices?

[Aeyis]

You see? That's the problem. There's some stupid mentality where people decided housing was a luxury when it really shouldn't be. That was NOT the point of housing, and the amount of features being added to housing in the first place is proof enough.

(That said, it might be true about PERSONAL housing. But that's something I was against, and wish they hadn't implemented. It completely killed the Free Company housing market.)

I'm sorry if you misunderstood, but yes I was referring to personal housing. Personal housing is nothing more then a luxury really.
Yes, it could be made available to everyone nearly right away; and at only a small cost at gil (if any at all).
But that would also no doubt decrease the amount of things we can change/do with the house.

You mention features tho. What feature of housing is not a luxury? I've yet to use any housing only feature. (altho my FC does have a house)

Hale Storm's dedication in not in question. If you knew her like we do, you would think twice before saying things like that.

For the record, dedication isn't measured in how much gil you can stash in X amount of time. It's not because someone is a long-time player that this player's guaranteed to be rich. Not everyone spends their entire time obsessing over getting rich. There are plenty of players who aggressively obsess over making the most possible Gil, but don't actually enjoy the game more than they would any other MMORPG. Dedication is taking part in the community, providing building blocks for a better tomorrow with positive ideas and engagement. In that sense, Hale's more dedicated to Final Fantasy XIV than you or I, without a doubt.

She has a rare talent of spreading liveliness and originality in her wake. We value her opinions, as they are overflowing with the most sincere desire to see this game flourish and improve.

I can only measure a persons dedication based on what they themselves write. You say a lot about the OP, but you seemed to have missunderstand that the ''dedication'' that was referred to was dedication towards getting a house, not towards anything else.


I have almost 15m gil right now, after having played for only 2 months from 0-50. (I did not keep anything from 1.0)
Why, because I care about gil? No. Because I thought to myself: ''I really want to get a house, so I will use any gil I get that I dont need for my normal expenses to save up so that in a few months I can buy that house''
^Regardless of the time taken in doing this (it could take a player 6 months, maybe even a year); simply having that goal is the kind of dedication I was referring to.

Anyone that really would a house would do no less, I think.



But I digress. Your reply to this topic is a tad bit late. Namely, after the server prices were posted which does effect things quite a bit.

So... game should not be fun, is that what you're trying to say?

I'm sorry, but did you even read what I replied that to? OP seemed to have misread what I posted; thinking I posted the exact opposite of what I did.

Dedication? really? Do you even understand the meaning of it?
FYI, I know some expert crafter who makes great deal of gil, only to burn them so fast for overmelding stuff just to make it more beneficial for advance content he/she's doing. That's dedication.

I'm been doing both that and saving up for a house. At the same time. Both from scratch. While I will not claim to have more dedication then the person you are referring to, I would certain claim to know something about the meaning of dedication.

Having house plots available after patch went live, only to have it being cleared out so fast for ppl who has crazy fast connection, that's not dedication. Also, not all ppl have the luxury of having a really... really fast internet connection, so fast that when the patch live, you can just go so fast to buy the plots which ran out very quickly in minutes.

A valid argument. However the OP was all about prices being to high, not there not being enough plots. Sorry if I misunderstood the thread title or the OP itself, but it clearly states that the thread is about prices being to high.

And please check the fact on the server before you blabbing your mouth. Masamune only has large housing left to purchase. Is it that worth to spend on personal housing? FC yes, personal? Really?

Depends, how much is large housing on your server? If you really want a house more then anything, personally I would say it was worth it. I believe someone in another thread mentioned trying to make a deal with someone to sell their (small or medium then) house. I'm not sure how doable that is tho, but it is a possiblity.
I'm aware that some people on larger population servers tend to consider theirs more important then others, but I will take that advice.

While I can't really disagree, I don't think luxury's the right word and certainly not a bad idea. Housing are in fact basic needs in real life besides food and clothes. Do you rather live under the bridge than trying to earn a shelter as your own? Just think that logically. You're trying to compare housing with having jewerly? Really?

ARR is not real life. You will not die or lose your inventory if you don't have a house to stay in. It provides nothing you need to actually play the game or do anything notable in it. That clearly makes it a luxury. Inside of a game like ARR housing is quite comparable to having jewelry (glamour). It would be different if lets say your retainers could only be accessed from inside of a house, or your mailbox etc.