Pro tip: Tell me you're new to a dungeon /rant

[ExKage]

What are you talking about? I've been pro-communication from the start.
I think this sums everything up quite nicely. Communication is the key. End of story.

My point was really that the OP was placing all of the blame on the players not saying anything and he's not shown that he's willing to accept that part of the bad experience was on him as well. It wasn't necessarily directed towards your beliefs but a facetious reply that the answer is not always binary.


I've met a lot of people who are absolutely terrified in dungeons to speak up, because just like in real life people are afraid to point attention towards themselves. Saying "yeah I'm new" points a big target at them. It's painfully obvious that people are new but they are either pulled through the mud or they get mud thrown at them. Many of my roulette runs start without me getting a stoneskin up on everyone and I don't even get to adlo the tank before a pull. "Hi" and then run. No time for anyone to even start mentioning that they are new. At that point the process goes to "oh crap I can't get left behind!"

Edit: For me, I've always had better results by seeing how fast a few of the mobs are dying and if a new player bonus comes up, just explaining the fight. If they tell me to stfu, then I know they don't need it and stfu. As a scholar, nothing annoys me more than a tank who doesn't watch how pulls go. It is not a pleasant experience healing a speedrun just because there is a black mage but the things die slowly and cooldowns aren't used properly. Or things die slowly, and your party members have taken the time to try and give advice to the black mage WHO ACCEPTS THE ADVICE that they shouldn't Fire III spam and then Blizzard III spam. And the tank has run off to start pulling things by himself. I'm not going to let tanks die when they do this, but it starts to sour the mood for your healer if you do stuff like that.