The Summer Event - New Info 8/8

[Biti]

I look forward to luring bombs into incinerators.

OMG I can't believe you'd want to do something like that at all. So violent, whats the deal? Next thing you know these bikinis will make us all go kill monsters for these things called sp. How has Eorzea ended up this way? Slutty people goin around killing everything in sight! Can't wait for Thursday!! /pose

[Kallera]

OMG I can't believe you'd want to do something like that at all. So violent, whats the deal? Next thing you know these bikinis will make us all go kill monsters for these things called sp. How has Eorzea ended up this way? Slutty people goin around killing everything in sight! Can't wait for Thursday!! /pose

Bomb activist groups will be protesting the event in their frumpy outfits, claiming that "they want to protect the children" from "the bikini agenda." Warping their minds. Everyone knows sexy outfits are what caused the Third Umbral Era after one of the Twelve suffered a wardrobe malfunction!!

Thus did The Builder learn to "measure twice, and cut once."

[Chezen]

I just don't agree with you on the whole "sexual thoughts" thing. I'm sure a lot of people here are joking around. I have made such comments before, simply for humor.

Some of this is probably different lines of thought, and some of it I do disagree. I do have a line with sexual humour jokes, and I don't make such jokes with people I don't know. The more "explicit" ones, I only make them with my husband. I don't consider making such jokes to others as proper, as I hold sex and sexual things to be sacred. Most people who know me think that I won't make any jokes like that at all. That's not actually true, but since most people don't seem to understand the line that I don't like to cross, I've found it better to just not go into it.

Do I think they are sexy? Yes. But that still doesn't mean I am having sexual thoughts. My thoughts do not go beyond, "Ya know, SE made some good looking character models." I enjoy them like I enjoy a good photo or painting, not like I'm looking at my naked significant other sprawled out before me in bed.

If you are dressing "sexy", this in my mind means dressing to illicit a sexual response. In my mind, the only one you should be doing this for is your spouse. If you don't have one yet, then still, building a relationship primarily out of "attraction" is not a good thing. And yet this is exactly what many young people do, because they often don't understand any better, and this is the example that adults set before them as far as they perceive it. No, we can't raise other people's kids, but society as a whole does influence them, and we do have a responsibility as adults to them.

Secondly... there may be exceptions, but overall, men are wired to think sexually. This isn't about stereotyping, it's just a fact. I don't mean that there aren't gentlemen with manners, but the fact is the more sexually you dress, the more they are going to think in a sexual way (overall). I'm not blaming them for that at all, but I will do my part by not dressing to the point of what our society would consider sexual. There are people who would go to the other extreme and ask me why I don't go cover myself from head to toe. There is a big difference between a pretty outfit and one that in our society, is meant to iilicit sexual attraction. Now, I will admit that a little bit of generation gap comes into play here, because what that is exactly does change over time.

Sure, SE realizes there are immature people playing the game that will have sexual thoughts, but I guarantee you if those people didn't exist, we'd still get the bikinis anyway. Those immature people are simply seen as a cash bonus to SE, and can you really blame them? They need any money and potential future subscriptions they can get for this game right now, due to it's poor release and horrible reviews.

Going back to my taking responsibility statement, yes I can blame them, the same way I hold most media responsible for their part. I had respect for SE for not going too far into this area. At the same time, they couldn't sell it if there wasn't a market for it. Everyone is responsible for their own part in things. A mature adult does understand that what a person does, does affect other people, whether it be in a negative way, or a positive one.

I think, and I also think SE's main reason is, that swimsuits make us have happy and fun thoughts. Seriously. Not happy fun sexual thoughts. They just remind us of the beach, which is where people go to have fun. And usually, when people do this, it's nice and warm out. All positive.

The fact that they didn't choose a one piece is because... do I really have to explain... it's 2011! :P If the characters were fat, it'd be one thing, but they are fit and attractive. Even the guys. Same thing applies in real life. If you are fit, you dress to show it. It's not being slutty. It's something most people actually do for themselves, not for others. It's a great moral boost. Now, when you dress slutty, you are doing it for others, and you are doing it to get laid. There is a major difference.

I never said anything about a one-piece, although I do appreciate a pretty one. That girl's pixelated boobs are about to fall out of that bikini. Between that, and the pose in the coatee and hose, if you don't think SE isn't pushing sexualization... I actually really don't want to burst your bubble. If fun was the only idea behind it, they could have advertised some different alternate swimsuits at the very least. I more than agree there is a difference between dressing slutty and dressing pretty. But this is not one of them. I do very much like to dress attractive. Waist fitting dresses with flowing skirts are my favorite. Obviously that wouldn't work for the beach. But offering a bikini that actually looks like it will hold you in properly, I think isn't too much to ask.

As for moral boost, if a woman really feel the need to dress slutty, (meaning in a way that attracts the sexual type attention of others), I would think there might be other problems at work that really have nothing to do with it. Ones that won't be solved by dressing that way.

As for you saying you will not be participating, I hope you have other reasons than just because you don't like the idea of bikinis being in the game. If that's the case, you really need to lighten up. This is the first event that actually sounds fun.

It's exactly why I won't be participating. I don't play lalafalla, and SE isn't offering any other alternatives. I'm very childishly immature about a great many things, but I am very serious in the areas that matter. I take this matter seriously, because it is screwing up our society.

I just respectfully disagree in general. I believe that many mistakes in life can be avoided, but they require maintenance and care, like anything worthwhile. It's really difficult to maintain things all by yourself. It's much better if you have a society and support network that helps you out. Many kids out there these days do not have that.

[Biti]

OOOOHHH! where can I find one of these "frumpy outfits"? By the sparkler stand? Definitely dont want to stand out when the mob with pitchforks and torches comes by.

[Gramul]

Now, I have nothing againt the swimsuits in whatever provocative sense they present themselves (they are classified as underwear after all), but I do prefer the style of swimwear from XI. There was just so much more to the design and it felt like clothing you would actually see in the world. My biggest problem besides the strange man bra is the fact that they don't really feel like they fit in with the style of the rest of the world.

[Biti]

Gramul I think I know how you feel, and the Dev team probably does also. They're like, "Well what the hell do we do, it's coded so that you have to where an undershirt." *Pondering* "Well we have to put something there, we don't have enough time to rewrite this for summer." Everyone~ "Lame."

[miqokini]

Some of this is probably different lines of thought, and some of it I do disagree. I do have a line with sexual humour jokes, and I don't make such jokes with people I don't know. The more "explicit" ones, I only make them with my husband. I don't consider making such jokes to others as proper, as I hold sex and sexual things to be sacred. Most people who know me think that I won't make any jokes like that at all. That's not actually true, but since most people don't seem to understand the line that I don't like to cross, I've found it better to just not go into it.


If you are dressing "sexy", this in my mind means dressing to illicit a sexual response. In my mind, the only one you should be doing this for is your spouse. If you don't have one yet, then still, building a relationship primarily out of "attraction" is not a good thing. And yet this is exactly what many young people do, because they often don't understand any better, and this is the example that adults set before them as far as they perceive it. No, we can't raise other people's kids, but society as a whole does influence them, and we do have a responsibility as adults to them.

Secondly... there may be exceptions, but overall, men are wired to think sexually. This isn't about stereotyping, it's just a fact. I don't mean that there aren't gentlemen with manners, but the fact is the more sexually you dress, the more they are going to think in a sexual way (overall). I'm not blaming them for that at all, but I will do my part by not dressing to the point of what our society would consider sexual. There are people who would go to the other extreme and ask me why I don't go cover myself from head to toe. There is a big difference between a pretty outfit and one that in our society, is meant to iilicit sexual attraction. Now, I will admit that a little bit of generation gap comes into play here, because what that is exactly does change over time.

Going back to my taking responsibility statement, yes I can blame them, the same way I hold most media responsible for their part. I had respect for SE for not going too far into this area. At the same time, they couldn't sell it if there wasn't a market for it. Everyone is responsible for their own part in things. A mature adult does understand that what a person does, does affect other people, whether it be in a negative way, or a positive one.



I never said anything about a one-piece, although I do appreciate a pretty one. That girl's pixelated boobs are about to fall out of that bikini. Between that, and the pose in the coatee and hose, if you don't think SE isn't pushing sexualization... I actually really don't want to burst your bubble. If fun was the only idea behind it, they could have advertised some different alternate swimsuits at the very least. I more than agree there is a difference between dressing slutty and dressing pretty. But this is not one of them. I do very much like to dress attractive. Waist fitting dresses with flowing skirts are my favorite. Obviously that wouldn't work for the beach. But offering a bikini that actually looks like it will hold you in properly, I think isn't too much to ask.

As for moral boost, if a woman really feel the need to dress slutty, (meaning in a way that attracts the sexual type attention of others), I would think there might be other problems at work that really have nothing to do with it. Ones that won't be solved by dressing that way.

It's exactly why I won't be participating. I don't play lalafalla, and SE isn't offering any other alternatives. I'm very childishly immature about a great many things, but I am very serious in the areas that matter. I take this matter seriously, because it is screwing up our society.

I just respectfully disagree in general. I believe that many mistakes in life can be avoided, but they require maintenance and care, like anything worthwhile. It's really difficult to maintain things all by yourself. It's much better if you have a society and support network that helps you out. Many kids out there these days do not have that.

Wow... If I wasn't at work, I would spend more thought and time on my response.

You really do have a HUGE problem with this... o.O

I'm very sorry that in your mind, sexy means sexual thoughts. To those of of mature enough to not have this problem, it's easy to see that perhaps you are the immature individual who's mind has been warped by society and media.

You don't have to answer this, but I'm curious; are you a Christian and do you watch Fox News?

[Nabiri]

This is just me but.. I feel it's far more harmful for children to be taught to be ashamed of their own bodies, and afraid of others'.
I'm happy to see that more people these days feel comfortable in their own skin (enough that bikinis aren't taboo or something). Times are changing.

I'm proud of SE for adding bikinis. :3 It shouldn't be a controversial topic. We're still covered where it matters.

[Black_Rose]

oh my god, at this rate they will never rerelease FFVII.
i mean, just imagine how many people will freak out when they see tifa in HD quality.
and to top it off, she'll wear a bikini when they'll arrive at costa del sol lulz

[miqokini]

oh my god, at this rate they will never rerelease FFVII.
i mean, just imagine how many people will freak out when they see tifa in HD quality.
and to top it off, she'll wear a bikini when they'll arrive at costa del sol lulz

Well, to put it into perspective, the vast majority have no problems with the bikinis. I've only seen 2 people complaining about it, desperately trying to justify their stance. It's kind of sad...

Most people these days see no harm, and like someone else said, it's far more harmful to teach children to be ashamed of their bodies.